Updates and Changes

Yeah kelti someday I`ll do more than just keep boarders :P

Oh and I was on the richlist for a LONG time before that last UW... haven`t had a chance to make money cuz of vacation since then though lol

Kelti that 0 on the top 50 is only cuz me and slavyzz haven`t been around recently :P... I`ve been in vm and who knows where slavyzz is lmao

So Collectives are an endangered race according to this information :P

*waves from his spot on two of the three of those areas, and sticks his hand up from just below the third*

*goes back to digging*

here are the current amount of each race in the top 50 power listing on RT
guardian - 15
viral - 13
terran - 11
miner - 9
marauder - 2
collective - 0

here are the current amount of each race in the top 50 planet listing on RT
terran - 18
miner - 15
viral - 10
guardian - 4
marauder - 2
collective - 1

here are the current amount of each race in the top 20 richest listing on RT
terran - 10
miner - 7
viral - 3
guardian - 0
marauder - 0
collective - 0

just some food for thought

i have to point out that Lyth upkeep was reduced not for miner`s but for virals..

yes rag, it`s because i`m actually not THAT biased unlike 99% of the people who play the game and just want to see their own race improved...I`m more interested in game mechanic interactions between ALL players. And when I am biased I admit it straight up...yes i am very pro UW, but that`s pretty much it..I would like to have all races in SF have a good shot at UWing *cough* terran *cough*. I also support the underdogs of the server...and like I said many times, these changes are only gonna make it easier for which ever fed that controls the server, to maintain control...ESPECIALLY RT.

Lyth upkeep should not have been decreased and should actually be increased (the lyth was way too cheap even before these changes), if we are to adopt the RP point of view that miners should be a defensive race. And let`s face it, lyth is the best ship in the game anyways - nothing even compared to how effing good it is.

Useful as far as actual defensive stacking is concerned I mean.

Grantweep, curious you should say that about lyth considering that you`re miner. :)

Frankly the Lakko is more useful now than before, although I do feel that the cost is a bit high.

Nice work on the ship mods, you have put a ton of work into this game, thank you for the time and efforts.

*drools at the thought of coming against some Lakko`s in a UW situation*

That needing to be said from my UW fighting point of view, I also would side with nice SBs from a RPing point of view, me being a fine lover of anything that sticks with the story of the game.

The new Lakko I would like using as a lower stack now, whereas previously unless I was putting the Lakko at or near the top of my stacks, it wasn`t worth building, because of the fact that the retal would kill them when/if they flanked. Now I might be able to kill a bit more before losing (when I`m actually trying to build and you neo-barbs are attacking me with a spam and dummy stacks :P)

Overall I don`t care too much either way, I`ve never used the Lakko really except as a way to build past my enemies in DP, and I don`t fight enough to really have the experience to claim knowledge of its potential use/lessness. I`m just glad continuing effort is being put into the game, thank you staff for your hard work and dedication to the game, even if in the end people do happen to petition for a return of the old Lakko.

*gives a bow and goes back to his digging and rebuilding of credit stores*

yeah! give lyth double or triple the current upkeep. make it like 140,000 per 30k ship or something.

make those miners pay.

what i don`t understand is why miner ships are getting their upkeep reduced.. there is no reason for it.
and i was one that chose for lakko to have it`s upkeep increased and left as it`s original design

SD said:
"if you`d rather build a lyth spam then by all means build a lyth spam, technically i`d rather have any attacking ship over a base anyhow so i wouldn`t have wasted my turns on the old lakko either. if these changes just really wreak your style of play then get enough people to support changing it."

yeah there ya go, thanks for agreeing with me that lakko`s a waste of turns. I don`t have that big of a problem with the changes from a game balance point of view. I`m being very critical from a RP point of view in that miners should not be offensive race.

The onus shouldn`t be on me to gather support to change the bases. Bases were fine the way they were with the exception of two situations: UW and building bases in DP on RT. Now you`ve diminished the effectiveness of bases in those situations, but at the cost of making bases kinda suck for pretty much everything else, hence turning miners into what I think is the most offensive race in the game.

I`m just going to throw it out there that because lyth upkeep was dropped so should its range... why not make it 6 range again o.O

BadWolf: Uhh No... =P

Edited by BadWolf on 2010-10-14

backoff i sure hope you enjoy being viral when playing viral actually becomes "hard" as it states in the manual ... then we`ll see who`s laughing

I love it when SD talks super smexy whoohoo.

vm again?lolhope to see u soon, kelti...wohohohoho

i`m happy for updates and changes but till the Viral race is fixed with their Maru ship abuse i will be going into permanent VM on RT.

this is going to go on for a month, if we see flaws in things that were voted on, which is why we want you to TEST them and THEN provide feedback, then we will address those issues what ever they may, and Grant if you honestly want miners to become more defensive then drum up more support for it, tell people to send a petition to me and i`ll take 50% of their ships and make them starbases or what have you.

if you`d rather build a lyth spam then by all means build a lyth spam, technically i`d rather have any attacking ship over a base anyhow so i wouldn`t have wasted my turns on the old lakko either. if these changes just really wreak your style of play then get enough people to support changing it.

at least we`re offering you guys the option to have it altered and not forcing it down your throat indefinitely. remember miners are far from the first to have their complete way of play changing. Remember viral and all their forced you get no say about it nerfs, losing D and G class, range on borr/chiron decreased from 9 their capture rates cut, having their upkeeps raised.

when people complain so much about one ship being changed you know what it tells me, that ship was way over used.

so either band together and ask for the changes to be altered or look and see if you have more ships than just lakko on your ship list, i bet you have two or three other ships, maybe even 4