Here We Go Again!

guys what about the uw

To clarify about C Class ships and being better, at equal PR, most C classes ships defense against its WEAKEST modifier(missiles) still gives more actual hull than equal PR worth of Kryos STRONGEST modifier (kinetic).
Then you have the debate about whether it is better to keep 1 kryo or lose half your stack of C class, or visa versa (lose 1 kryo or have half a stack of C class). Personally the flexibility plus being pure energy (except taurus) makes C every sing C class ship a better option over kryo.

So in the case of non paid accounts unless you already have all 4 (5 with a paid account) C class ships in your stacks, it is arguably not worth building a kryo, unless it is out of lazyness, which is a valid arguement.

In the set up he had he would of gotten more out of actual fodder or c class ships than lictor and kryo. I will admit arguments for Lictor could still be made other wise.

The same can not be said for the Kryo though, it is just an all around poorly made ship, they might as well taken away all of its weapons and increased its missile modifier, it is lacking in hull to most ships to be a true fodder, it has a -60% missile modifier which makes it worthless against half the popular offensive ships (aka the ones it would be stacked against). And it lacks the fire power to be effective as a bottom stack.

In the end you get more of everything out of any C class ships and the chlor, and better fodder out of actual fodder.

In short, argument for lictor is fine, argument for kryo not so much.

Did I miss the explanation for why everyone is posting the stack info this way instead of the regular post-battle way?

Mandrib I dont see any sucking a.miner ship in that stack. Lyth is awesome. Sapphire is uber. Lictor is a huge fodder. Kryo is usefull in a UW imo

Kalzul`s fleet
K.Yang-Fo 153 6 147
K.Wei-Li Battleship 611 0 611
K.Hun-Xe Cruiser 1,457 3 1,454
K.Wei-Xe Battleship 610 0 610
K.Hun-Li Destroyer 2,218 5 2,213
K.Yang-Xe 152 0 152
K.Hun-Zen Cruiser 1,836 0 1,836
K.Wai-Li Dreadnought 294 0 294
K.Wai-Xe Dreadnought 268 0 268
K.Zhao-Zen Starbase 18 0 18

K.Yang-Fo 153 747,092 114,305,076
K.Wei-Li Battleship 611 186,772 114,117,692
K.Hun-Xe Cruiser 1,457 78,322 114,115,154
K.Wei-Xe Battleship 610 186,772 113,930,920
K.Hun-Li Destroyer 2,218 51,224 113,614,832
K.Yang-Xe 152 747,092 113,557,984
K.Hun-Zen Cruiser 1,836 61,780 113,428,080
K.Wai-Li Dreadnought 294 373,555 109,825,170
K.Wai-Xe Dreadnought 268 373,555 100,112,740
K.Zhao-Zen Starbase 18 1,500,003 27,000,054

K.Hun-Li Destroyer 2,237 51,224 114,588,088
K.Yang-Fo 153 747,092 114,305,076
K.Wei-Li Battleship 611 186,772 114,117,692
K.Hun-Xe Cruiser 1,457 78,322 114,115,154
K.Wei-Xe Battleship 610 186,772 113,930,920
K.Yang-Xe 152 747,092 113,557,984
K.Hun-Zen Cruiser 1,836 61,780 113,428,080
K.Wai-Li Dreadnought 294 373,555 109,825,170
K.Wai-Xe Dreadnought 268 373,555 100,112,740
K.Zhao-Zen Starbase 18 1,500,003 27,000,054

Kalzul
Name Units Unit Power Total Power
K.Yang-Xe 154 747,092 115,052,168
K.Hun-Xe Cruiser 1,468 78,322 114,976,696
K.Wei-Li Battleship 614 186,772 114,678,008
K.Hun-Li Destroyer 2,237 51,224 114,588,088
K.Yang-Fo 153 747,092 114,305,076
K.Wei-Xe Battleship 610 186,772 113,930,920
K.Hun-Zen Cruiser 1,836 61,780 113,428,080
K.Wai-Li Dreadnought 294 373,555 109,825,170
K.Wai-Xe Dreadnought 268 373,555 100,112,740
K.Zhao-Zen Starbase 18 1,500,003 27,000,054

nedflanders`s fleet
M.Lakko Starbase 200 200 0
G.Livid (r) Fighter 81 1 80
G.Lictor 17 0 17
M.Calcite Cruiser 51 0 51
F.Spear Cruiser 1 0 1
M.Chlorite Destroyer 1 0 1
Large Strafez Runner 1 0 1
Large Strafez Fodder 1 0 1
Small Strafez Runner 1 0 1
Small Strafez Fodder 1 0 1

Colonies Captured
Name Type Land Size
E.1833 Desert 128
E.1835 Forest 359
lol even more buddy

lol @ starbases


raven`s fleet
V.Chiron Starbase 99 69 30
Hercules 40 19 21
Pyth Battleship 80 0 80
Tyr Dreadnought 18 0 18
M.Chlor Cruiser 1 1 0
Tiger Destroyer 1 0 1
Pike Destroyer 1 0 1
Strafez Queen 1 0 1
Large Strafez Runner 1 0 1
Large Strafez Fodder 1 0 1

Colonies Captured
Name Type Land Size
E.1835 Forest 359

Hahaha, well he managed to get 2 of the worst A. Miner ships in 4 stacks, that is impressive.

nedflanders`s fleet
G.Sapphire Destroyer 38 38 0
A.Kryo Starbase 8 8 0
M.Lyth Dreadnought 14 5 9
G.Lictor 5 0 5

Colonies Captured
Name Type Land Size
E.1835 Forest 359
E.1833 Desert 128

could someone scout pls

nice to see that some newbies like nedflanders don`t understand that you attack the uw not others that are trying to defeat Kalzul

if you need scout, PM me.

K.Yang-Xe 154 0 154
K.Hun-Xe Cruiser 1,468 0 1,468
K.Wei-Li Battleship 614 0 614
K.Hun-Li Destroyer 2,237 0 2,237
K.Yang-Fo 153 0 153
K.Wei-Xe Battleship 610 0 610
K.Hun-Zen Cruiser 1,836 0 1,836
K.Wai-Li Dreadnought 294 0 294
K.Wai-Xe Dreadnought 268 0 268
K.Zhao-Zen Starbase 18 0 18

Kalzul`s fleet
K.Wei-Xe Battleship 620 10 610
K.Hun-Zen Cruiser 1,872 4 1,868
K.Hun-Xe Cruiser 1,469 0 1,469
K.Yang-Xe 154 0 154
K.Wei-Li Battleship 614 0 614
K.Hun-Li Destroyer 2,237 0 2,237
K.Yang-Fo 153 0 153
K.Wai-Li Dreadnought 294 0 294
K.Wai-Xe Dreadnought 268 0 268
K.Zhao-Zen Starbase 18 0 18

Kalzul`s fleet
K.Wei-Xe Battleship 620 10 610
K.Hun-Zen Cruiser 1,872 4 1,868
K.Hun-Xe Cruiser 1,469 0 1,469
K.Yang-Xe 154 0 154
K.Wei-Li Battleship 614 0 614
K.Hun-Li Destroyer 2,237 0 2,237
K.Yang-Fo 153 0 153
K.Wai-Li Dreadnought 294 0 294
K.Wai-Xe Dreadnought 268 0 268
K.Zhao-Zen Starbase 18 0 18

Kalzul`s fleet
K.Wei-Li Battleship 620 6 614
K.Wei-Xe Battleship 620 0 620
K.Hun-Zen Cruiser 1,872 0 1,872
K.Hun-Xe Cruiser 1,469 0 1,469
K.Yang-Xe 154 0 154
K.Hun-Li Destroyer 2,237 0 2,237
K.Yang-Fo 153 0 153
K.Wai-Li Dreadnought 294 0 294
K.Wai-Xe Dreadnought 268 0 268
K.Zhao-Zen Starbase 18 0 18