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A.Miner Update Discussion

Started by Deiloche · 15/07/2009 · 09:33 AM · 66 replies · 3 reads
D DeilocheOP
Constructive criticism ONLY. If you don`t like something, say why. If you do like something, also say why. Useless posts are unacceptable.

Changes courtesy of: EphemeralEternity, BrokenSwordS, Deiloche

G.Lictor
ES: 80 > 40
KS: 40 > 80

Concept behind this change is to give A.Miners a strong anti kinetic ship, which is something severely lacking in the race. It still a big meat shield, but at least it will be able to soak up damage from some of the more powerful kinetic ships.


Lyth
Upkeep: 170% > 135%
OR
Upkeep: 170% > 120%
PR: 30kish > 50kish
BR: 2 > 1
OR
Upkeep: 170% > 120%
PR: 30kish > 25kish

120% puts the lyth in similar range with nirvana, tyr, aragonite, and the chlor for those familiar with fighting with those ships. But at 120% that is too low of an upkeep for a 60k BR. So the idea would be to lower it to a 50k BR, either by changing the BR to 1 and making the ship bigger, or making the ship smaller. Stats would maintain themselves relative to PR, so ratios would not change but actual values would.


G.Livid (r)
Upkeep: 160% > 120%

A good niche ship, the livid is massively underused largely due to it`s excessive upkeep.


A.Hoko
Upkeep: 14.6% > 35%

The A.Hoko is not a huge powerhouse except in UWs, but even in regular usage the upkeep on this ship is far too low, especially for a race as wealthy as A.Miners.


M.Lakko
Upkeep: 21.2% > 40%

The M.Lakko is a pretty good defensive ship and as it`s better than the Hoko it needs more upkeep. However, in maintaining with the standards of the defensive A.Miner race, this ship will maintain a low upkeep.


A.Kryo
Upkeep: 60% > 30%

The kryo is the weakest miner SB and costs way too much. Hence... upkeep reduction ftw.

Edited by BrokenSwordS on 2009-07-15
D DeilocheOP
Ahahaha okay TPE. Thank you for your input, but I have to say the recent string of Hoko Lakko UWs (I think beginning with my own) has shown just how abuseable they are, so the upkeep is necessary to change.
O OttOmaNS
well i wanted to do one like it, but np i was doing a lil sarcasm there, so people can go for the negative, i make them think oposite haha.
E EphemeralEternity
isn`t any one else sick of miner UW`s and 60% of their fleet being hoko/lakko, followed by fodder taking up another 30% leaving 10% for other?
Y Yoshi
I personnally thing they are ALL good and needed...

SBs mainly

The upkeep to pr *was* insane..trust me..im a profesional base user xD

I would go with the lyth 25ishk pr for some...`small` stacking.
D DeilocheOP
Exactly, TPE. That`s the POINT. Thank you for giving us the positives even if you think you were giving negatives.
O OttOmaNS
i think they are fine, its not me doing the lakka spams, im just saying i like the lyth update, but the starbases no, because yes lakka is powerful, but its a good defense when needed, i mean if you do that, it will cost someone more, right now it dont cost that much, but aftrer 10 mill it starts to hit the wallet, really/
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