Request for stats info

well miners can lyth lictor spam their butt up to 50mil in no time, but also break their bank at the same time :P

You cannot really compare the average build rate between races mathematically because the comparison would not have much meaning unless you have a stack you are going to say is "equal" for each race. Yeah you can just say one of each ship from the race and average those but that doesn`t really give you useful information since stacks are made up of lots of ships and will skew the number possibly far from the average depending on what is in the stack.

well from playing as guard i can build up past someone and make a balanced stacks before they know what happened but the fact is unless a guard uses some sort of nuetral ship in thier fleet they will just get owned by missile spam ships everytime time because they just happen to be the fastest building ships for most races, so basically sure guard can build a lot faster than anyone else but they still have to build nuetral ships so that really slows them down

o.O ......*brain explodes*

Wow that`s a lot of information, and yes it makes me happy to be a tax a-miner :P Now if only Stephen were around to reset all of my infra so that I could make my empire into a proper tax based a-miner, as opposed to a tax based empire that used to focus on being balanced, and so put a whole mitt full of points into agri. Then I`d really be earning money.

rofl I never did get around to fixing that one xD

ha

I noticed the word fart

Well I realized after I posted that, that it is not at all what you wanted, I have a spreadsheet that has a lot of ship information on it, but not that average build rates or anything, I tried to megaupload it but it keeps crashing, you know where to find me if you want it lol

Upkeep/PR (average of all non-scout ships for the race)(also exludes free upkeep mission ships)

Terran: 0.907023067
Miner: 0.7704956
Marauder: 0.242154
Guardian: 0.112477923
Collective: 0.33360975
Viral: 0.688532727

For viral I chose the most common ships:
Herc, Tyr, Nirv
Pyth, Angel, Bull
Lyth, Lictor, Chlor

Income Required for 100M PR

Terran: 90,702,306.7
Miner: 77,049,560
Marauder: 24,215,400
Guardian: 11,247,792.3
Collective: 33,360,975
Viral: 68,853,272.2

Net Income with 50k land and 100 Infra and 5k loyalty and food at 10. WITH cgs

Terran (com) = 2,562,500
Terran (agri) = 7,215,500
Miner (tax) = 16,460,000
Miner (Min) = 9,717,500
Miner (cgs) = 6,042,500
Marauder (plunder) = 467,833,333 (each turn for the 10 turns required to plunder 2 25k c2s)
Marauder (agri) = 3,227,250
Marauder (cgs) = 905,250
Guardian (agri) = 298,200 (2500 loyalty)
Guardian (tax) = 843,500 (2500 loyalty)
Collective (plunder) = 555,628,000 (each turn for the 10 turns required to plunder 2 25k c.3s)(yes I know those are big)
Collective (agri) = 7,312,500
Viral (tax) = 5,525,000
Viral (com) = 1,807,500
Viral (agri) = 3,097,200

Now. From these numbers we can calculate the highest PR each income type can go to in positive NET income (on average)(excluding plunder types, seeing as how they have no net income)

Terran (com) = 2,825,176
Terran (agri) = 7,955,144
Miner (tax) = 21,362,873
Miner (Min) = 12,612,012
Miner (cgs) = 7,842,354
Marauder (agri) = 13,327,262
Marauder (cgs) = 3,738,323
Guardian (agri) = 2,651,186
Guardian (tax) = 7,499,249
Collective (agri) = 21,919,323
Viral (tax) = 8,024,309
Viral (com) = 2,625,147
Viral (agri) = 4,498,261

THINGS TO CONSIDER:
-Keep in mind these are just raw numbers, obviously they will appear unbalanced
-Base PR`s for Tax
-Build rates (cheap ships that build fast will carry you a LOT farter on negative income)
-Colony counts (some races are simply better at holding more than 50k land)

sound like a difficult math problem :P
one point to note is that the time spend on a empire to reach certain pr should also take into consideration of the balance of gc... for example mineral miner need the shortest time to set up a empire with enough cash to climb to maybe 50mil pr consistently.. second will be terran and viral.. collective and maru depend on the colonies they manage to catch.. guard will take some time to reach that...