Mmm, no retal would be definitely pushing it across the line. Also note that I`m planning to do a lot more of the ships. Each ship needs it`s own niche, and the idea is to not make any one ship TOO strong. This corr can now deal with a lot of ships that gave it a significant amount of grief in the past. True, it`s still not awesome at dealing with some of the caps that come at it, but it`s a lot better, and combined with the emerald (which can crush the angel on aggressive, and do alright on normal) just those two ships alone completely changes the complexion of guardians. You cannot just throw together a standard missile heavy fleet and be garunteed to prevail unless you run into fez. Now, a ship that doesn`t hurt a guardian to build (which fez really does, especially on turnbased) is capable of doing a serious amount of damage to the standard spams.