Guardian

ever thought of just dropping the ruby build rate....

so yes it is some super op ship that beats every non kalzul ship on carefull except herc....
but u have to put in alot of turns to get a decent stack/spam of it.... ( this is as well as the new corm and new em

Please learn to read. It will prevent very poor questions and keep the thread flowing. :P

make a choise, green red or blue. >_<

no the green is what the ships currently are blue is the newest proposed changes and red is the older proposed changes

and yes corun is alot better now its a great gaurd defence ship.... it drops like a rock to tyr angel flych ara on attack but beats them all on defence...

G.Corundum shields as is.
Defense Modifier
Energy Shield + 99 %
Absorption Shield - 40 %
ECM - 20 %
Ionized Hull - 20 %

G.Corundum weapons as is.
Weapon 18,000
Energy Damage 9,000
Kinetic Damage 9,000
Missile Damage 0
Chemical Damage 0


Changes are not on RT

only those in blue..

are these change implemented already????

By "these two ships" I mean corundum and emerald btw. :)

it will Knossos its just a question of when mostly don`t wanna move too fast here lol

Wouldn`t mind seeing the hun.xe get a slight boost either for the turns required to simply unlock it.

Looks decent to me. It seems logical to have the guardian destroyers focused on a more offensive stance when compared to the rest of their ship list; however, I could see people spamming these two ships when attacking. It might make guards attack more aggressively though.

no the corun is much stronger now.

especially on defense

I`m just wondering why you are reducing all the ships hulls by HALF. Isn`t that the point of the guardian race? They don`t deal so much damage, but they have high hull.

In my opinion the increased damage doesn`t make up for the lost hull. Especially with the shield modifiers making the ships easier to kill. Look at the Corun... You are dropping the hull in HALF and then dropping ALL the shield modifiers. This ship is now about 3 times easier to kill.

If these are the kind of changes being made to guardian ships, then I hope you are dropping the hulls on all the other ships aswell.

The corun has nice damage ... but will it be the *only* ship with no defense *without* no retal? -- I think it will be a good ship!

The emmy (the hull looks slightly low, not too bad; maybe 30 or 33k?) is good ... good to have lower build rate on a higher range ship.

if we make these improvements to G and L , and maybe improve hun xe , then that itself would be interesting

would guardian still feel the need to spam :-/

i dont see no xe improvement :-o

Updated..

I agree that it looks much better now. Corr with range 8 would make it impossible to take down, and also harder to defend against since tyr/lyth would be ineffective. It also favors aggressive attacks against with the improved damage and still larger range than most capital ships. Maybee -50& ECM and -70%I Hull.

Emmy also looks more balanced now.

Yah looks decent, a bit of an overkill of the corun ECM thou.

I like this! Maybe the cor is a bit weak with the ecm as stated by the others, but a minor detail I think.