Guardian

Some small range increases on some ships can be expected, but the general hully nature of guardian ships is not something that goes along with high range, generally speaking.

too much to ask if agate was 5k energy instead of kenetic its like gaurds have a bullet fetish

would be interesting like :/

Guardians need more ships with a longer range.

well this is probably the most important of all the changes being made , so more time is needed for it

thanks Deiloche although i just switched to marauder i cant wait to see the new Guards XD

well its going to be a while yet.. first deils gota draft up the figures then they`ve got to be tested and then they need to be implimented ...

time frame i recon anything from 4 days to 2 months >.<

how long til we do see updates? i think we are all happy with everything thats been said and changing emmy to a 20k turn decent based destroyer and all but i put myself into vm because i hate spamming and thats all i can do attacking...... if they dont come in like 9 days im just going to switch again =(

cool we`d be happy with that -- can we see it soon?

bump....

i think the current suggestion is to turn emerald into a fat 20k a turn destroyer
and to turn topaz into a range 8 ship which holds its ground against the main missle ships eg tyr angel lyth etc

i duno i`m not the designer but i think you`d be looking at something like

16-19k firepower
19-22k pr
11-17k hull
range 9

and i believe deli sed if he did this he would scrape the emc mod on the emerald and give it to topaz (basicaly take his current idea for emerald make it range 8 and give it to topaz and turn emerald into a big destroyer)

Thought --

People should bear in mind that range 9 galleons have 24k build, and that`s a genuinely good ship. Of course collectives have overall more handicapped build rates. But just pointing out we`re not straying too far from our comfort zones in looking at these suggestions.

But I would happily take a range 9 emmy:
18k firepwer (slightly higher, still about 0.7-1)
20k hull (more hull -- you want to give less hull?)
25k pr (much smaller build rate)

ECM mod +75 or +80%

what do you all think?

I reduce the pr on two ships and suddenly I`m killing them all, eh? Heh.

The corr as it stands is largely useless. It exists if you think tyrs or angels will aggro you, pretty much. :P Even with a slightly reduced br it still outbuilds any offensive ship besides lyth. So really. You need better complaints than "it builds too slow". And I cannot give it too much good stats without a much larger reduction in BR, which I do not wish to do without a large majority asking for it. I do not think it is needed in any event.

sound good deli..

as for the corun suggestion, i donno.. don really like to have another ship reduced pr so drastically as it will change one of the trail of guard, high buildrate... this is high buildrate is necessary for guard to fight high cheaply and be able fight more aggressively during uw since guard cant set off uw..

yay!!!!

then i think that would be a very good idea....
if you could draft up some figures i`d be happy to test for u......

then i think that would be a very good idea....
if you could draft up some figures i`d be happy to test for u......

I take that back. It probably would be range 8.