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Dark Marauder Discussion 2

Started by Ragnarok · 17/06/2008 · 01:44 AM · 59 replies · 1 read
R RagnarokOP
It seems the Dark Maru discussion has gone somewhat dead so I`m hear to restart the topic again.

So what have the admins decided so far about the race? Any particular time frame when you guys think it will be playable? Like maximum amount of time. Maybe 2 years tops? 6 months tops?
F FireStormZ
Seriously 28 guards have done all the missions (mostly on RT) over the entire length of this game... and some of the folks (like collective) did it twice... This will not flood the servers with D Maru`s and it appears to be more rate (outside of rt) that a guard gets to 300 then a person sets off a UW>.
R RagnarokOP
so, what. Ultra gets 4, fast gets 3, and normal and slow get 2?

And 300 planets may be easy for RT when u are guard, but what about slower servers?
F FireStormZ
Really a `flood` of users? lets look at the number of guards who finished all missions..

10/10/06 Bandits RT Guardian 458 110,213,911
19/07/04 EvilBastard RT Guardian 32 107,056,120
02/04/04 Cloudcity RT Guardian 12 105,806,460
07/01/03 Empire RT Guardian 13 88,109,122
07/12/03 xbardyx RT Guardian 6 65,400,511
14/07/04 TheBlueKnight RT Guardian 7 42,417,673
19/03/07 DrKsTgUaRdIaN RT Guardian 227 32,924,654
15/12/03 Pongo RT Guardian 11 32,364,783
13/12/03 collective RT Guardian 9 20,315,727
09/08/04 MrSpack RT Guardian 5 16,473,184
09/01/04 Jediknights RT Guardian 15 13,206,207
10/03/06 Tripsland Ultra Guardian 195 12,345,678
10/07/04 Zardoz RT Guardian 59 11,888,070
03/07/04 xxxianna RT Guardian 1 11,118,215
13/05/05 Kraxnar Fast Guardian 308 10,878,504
06/04/04 Iamnonagressive Ultra Guardian 25 10,864,540
13/06/04 wallyworld RT Guardian 2 10,263,511
14/02/04 kevio RT Guardian 18 10,171,415
13/02/04 GodSaveTheKing RT Guardian 4 8,788,447
10/10/05 Kevio RT Guardian 36 8,136,730
21/10/03 kevio RT Guardian 23 7,617,410
24/07/04 wolverine RT Guardian 6 6,969,803
14/03/04 collective RT Guardian 34 6,968,422
06/03/04 larrdog RT Guardian 8 6,805,237
27/02/04 ThePhoenix RT Guardian 0 6,726,928
08/03/04 scampy RT Guardian 21 5,777,542
27/01/04 Chronos RT Guardian 9 5,242,044
15/02/04 andalusia Ultra Guardian 39 5,169,618

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This over the course of years! and no metter how you set the rules for who can be that race its impossible to limit it to 4-5 per server..
4 420Renegade Admin
FireStormZ: Yes it will, 300 planets is easy, so is a UW at this point in time. I believe Maraudian plans to put in a max number of D Maru`s per server, 5 for RT, less for slowers iirc.
F FireStormZ
Good idea ching,

Its not like saying `get 300 planets or set off a UW` is going to flood the server with this race..
O Omegian
that is something im for actually for. Though the problem is getting the racial attributes and the ships finalized, then tested some via D. Maru events maybe?

/me looks at mara with puppy eyes.
G Gronoria
Maybe both isn`t such a bad idea, although on RT it is a lot easier to finish all guard missions I think.
C {Ching}
Why not have both? u can play D Maru if u complete an UW or the equivelant completing the missions with a race that can`t build an UW
4 420Renegade Admin
D maru aren`t going to be overpowered. They are going to be the hardest race by far, supposedly hard even for the best of vets. =) Ships might be imba, but whats the point if you can`t build them ;)
R Ragnarok
yes, that`s a very good point. The more D marus floating around, the more havoc they can wreak on the server. ^_^

And he`s right, there has to be more to gain than getting a gold star and being any empire that you want, and your fed having a temporary resource advantage over everyone else. If you "win" the game, it wouldn`t be unfair to give him a slightly overpowered but not unbeatable race. =P

It also gives something for people to shoot for that can`t be gotten from a paid.
4 420Renegade
Fool. The point of the D Maru is add incentive to UW`ing, and add incentive for people to stop UW`s. Everyone will want to be one, no one wants anyone else to be one, adds fun, many more UW attempts..and bigger wars trying to stop them. Think plz. kthx
F FireStormZ
Part of the reason for adding a new race is to help inject a little more life into the game... Do you think adding a race that *maybe* 4 or five guys a year can become and only then with the help of others will do anything helpful?

If you want to do that make the Kazul the race you can be for a UW and make the D.Maru a more easily playable race..
4 420Renegade Admin
The UW idea for D maru is perfect, whachu on about ?
UW not that hard to do =/ Most reason msot don`t is you have to give up your empire...
But now you`d be restarting anyway =p
R RagnarokOP
yea, the real world is a real bugger in getting in the way of a UW =P

But sleep is a bigger issue i think. ^_^

And you wouldn`t necessarily need to stay up 2 straight days. A Power UW generally buys you around 12 - 24 hours + of time where you don`t really need to be actively involved in the UW (esp if it`s the usual capitol ship spam UW with a fodder buffer stack or two).

Generally you have to be around at least a year on slower servers or more before you have the resources to do that though, both in terms of artifacts and cash.
F FireStormZ
To me the guards fit fine and yes to pull off an explore you need 2 straight days with nothing else to do (most of us live in TRW) *and* you need either (a) support and alot of it (look at what Ching had to go through) or (b) incompetent competition..
R RagnarokOP
but then only guards can be D Maru.........

And you don`t necessarily have to have the whole server supporting you. Lone explore UWs have succeeded before....you just need a lot of coffee or some really good drugs to keep you up....or be able to take 45 - 100 minute cat naps. And you need to have enough btc support to neutralize historia attacks and historia to take care of the 3 or 4 empires that are attacking too fast for you to explore some more (when you explore you are automatically taken out of dp).

It`s really quite hard to take down an explore UW if the guy doing it knows what he`s doing and the people opposing it don`t or not attentive enough.
F FireStormZ
TO clarify, the idea that to be a D maru you have to do a uw is too restrictive..
F FireStormZ
I have to stress again that the UW idea is lame, tie it to the guard mission 2-9 which is accomplished by fewer than the UW and is possible to do without half the server supporting you..
C CounterCrazy
I havent seen much enslavement lately from anyone... plus there is no advanage in being an slave lately.

So D. Mara being an enslaving race doesnt sound to bad... I would sign up to be a slave to get protect from the D.Mara. Would be sweet cause none-enslavible races cant get such protection. Which does balance things out a bit

Highly due to slavible races do for the most part are weaker in general without skills in stacking / fighting.
A ArchAng3l
or even let those paid race to be able to enslave ppl too.. will be attractive for those who set off uw and become a guard :P
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