Dark Marauder Discussion

that ship list is insane...

I really dont like the idea of a slaving race *not* able to send reinforcements. Why bother? who is going to slave with them though because they can be enslaved by races that can send reinforcements they will be targets for it...

The ship list looks fine to start with (why make the whole thing more difficult at this stage) later on ships can be dealt with it if give too much of an advantage... Though I might not give them the Maru ships maybe selected K, G, D class ships would be enough.. As Gron pointed out lets not make the installation of a race so much work that its not worth doing..

2 fighters, a corvette, 1 destroyer, 1 cruiser, 4 battleships, 1 special, no starbases.

G.Lictor Special 51,178
G.Livid Fighter 13,013

D. Luminous Fighter 10,013
D. Mako Corvette 18,018
D. Megalodon Battleship 120,632
D. Icithio Battleship 125,132

K.Hun-Li Destroyer 51,224
K.Hun-Xe Cruiser 78,322
K.Wei-Li Battleship 186,772
K.Wei-Xe Battleship 186,772

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Other than that everything looks nice..

Of course it would be great to have different ships for D maru, like Ishamael and Ragnarok point out. Only I think the problem is that creating a whole new shiplist for D Maru would be a lot of work and would be gigantically unbalanced at first. I mean you can`t predict with that many ships how they`ll work out in game.

yea, I like Ish`s thoughts on this. Make the D Maru ships unique or at least put a different name on them and slightly different stats. Or maybe make the ships like an over sized version of the maru ships.....10 times the PR, 10 times the hull, 10 times the firepower. Just be sure to decrease the build rate by the same factor maybe.......or not. I mean maybe while they were away they like grew 10 times the size they originally were so their ships had to grow too to compensate. ^_^

i dont like the idea of ANOTHER race getting marauder ships. when collective came out, they were able to capture and that`s fine, but the ability of virals to completely OWN marauder ships was just taking it a bit far and ultimately destroyed any reason for ever becoming maru unless on slower servers...

Anyways sure, they`re dark marauder and that`s great... but why not just make the dark marauder ships a hybrid combination of marauder/guardian? it would be another unique race, and it wouldn`t stray too far from the story line i guess.. i mean if the guardians pushed them out of the galaxy or whatever the hell happened and they came back after losing contact with marauders, surely their technologies would have gone different routes. so just make some original sihp designs SIMILAR to what current marauder ships are like, but have just a touch of guardian design added to make them truly unique. know what im saying?

D maru outline so far is:

guardian style income stats
marauder shiplist + d maru shiplist ( d maru ships will be a combination of maru / guardian / kalzul )
d maru ships re-made to be playable and a bit better than balanced
enslave + enslaveable
no reinforcements but can be reinforced
ability to punish and be punished
can reward / cant explore / smallest max colony count of all race
reasonable ( possibly collective style ) plunder income

Maru with K class...there`s a scary thought. o.0

cool but where does that leave normal Marauders - underbalanced? u could maybe make D maru the same but with the addition of K class ships

That`s not bad at all Deiloche

By the way, if anybody wants to know why I`m putting so much effort into making marauders balanced... Dark Marauders will have their basis as having the same ships as marauders, with the addition of five `new` ships, specific for dark marauders. Was hoping to make the ship selection actually look balanced. :P

So who can play D Maru have u decided yet?

so if d.maru could possibly enslave they can be enslaved. o wonders. maybe i should hold off on rebuilding my clusters.

Don`t worry TPE, working on making it work properly.

only 10 :-o ?

Yea i see, i wanted to know, people would probably hoard slaves then. I know like 10 players than can make so much money from this.

That, TPE, is one of the main things I need to talk with mara about. I have a few ideas on how to negate that particular effect and make Dark Marauders a very unique race, but I don`t want to flesh out these ideas and put work into them unless he first approves the concept, and I don`t want to present the ideas to the general public without them being fairly fleshed out.

hmm, dam, well i guess if i was d.maru and get like one viral tell him not to get free, and make me like 1 billion i would be set for some time.

Okay. Message me on msn, I`ve lost your email address when I accidentally deleted everybody off of my list. Have a few things to talk to you about.

they wouldnt consume food deiloche

oo I would love to enslave virals. lmao