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FireStormZOP
anyone else havingtrouble posting?
Market problems on RT...
Started by FireStormZ
· 29/05/2008 · 01:08 AM
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FireStormZOP
vehystrix,
Posting 10K at 50, 60, or 99% below market value is fine by me. Its was the annoying practice of doing 30 turns of research then posting, doing 30 turns of research and postin, .... That got *slightly* on my nerves..
Personally I hope people like parasite keep posting food at 10 (low mass users who help me make even more money off of food *grin*) just do it when you have accumulated some real food..
New empires who need cash *now* and take 90-100 turns to make 10K have at it Ill buy it up for you and we both win (you get money selling food at your bodega and I get food that I can sell at a higher price in my upscale grocery stores). When I first started as a collective I posted usually in lots of 100K but I posted near the current market value (usually 1 credit below), as soon as my infra was up and I had decent reserves I held off until a million units...
Thats the way it should work mineral miners would not be looked down upon for buying up rutile at 250 to turn around and sell at 900 even though many races cant make enough minerals for their needs (guards/collective/viral in particular) .
Posting 10K at 50, 60, or 99% below market value is fine by me. Its was the annoying practice of doing 30 turns of research then posting, doing 30 turns of research and postin, .... That got *slightly* on my nerves..
Personally I hope people like parasite keep posting food at 10 (low mass users who help me make even more money off of food *grin*) just do it when you have accumulated some real food..
New empires who need cash *now* and take 90-100 turns to make 10K have at it Ill buy it up for you and we both win (you get money selling food at your bodega and I get food that I can sell at a higher price in my upscale grocery stores). When I first started as a collective I posted usually in lots of 100K but I posted near the current market value (usually 1 credit below), as soon as my infra was up and I had decent reserves I held off until a million units...
Thats the way it should work mineral miners would not be looked down upon for buying up rutile at 250 to turn around and sell at 900 even though many races cant make enough minerals for their needs (guards/collective/viral in particular) .
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Valkyrie
haha bipbippy..I flipped the bill and paid a year for me and my best friend. =P
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bipbippy
ooh ooh, I could use some paids. Mine expires in 1 day.
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AGM94
I dont think that technically you are cheating either parasite, it might be an annoyance to people but its not like you are repeatedly posting below the limits of the market. Due to the post limit it is also not possible to post 10000 individual posts of anything so that part of the page is out of date.
Firestorm isnt doing what Example 1 of cheating
example: if a someone sells to you minerals at a low prices and someone buys back the same minerals at a high price is a clear example of cheating.
He is buying cheap and selling expensive which isnt mentioned anywhere as far as i see.
Personally i dont think that cheating page is really that good, although staff members will be able to define cheating better. It is extremely vague and basically says if anything you do gives you some type of advantage it could be cheating, so technically alot of things people do could end up being called cheating.
Not that this makes any difference to me anymore and i wont be making any more posts on anything, just waiting to decide who to give my remaining paids to then i can leave all my accounts
Firestorm isnt doing what Example 1 of cheating
example: if a someone sells to you minerals at a low prices and someone buys back the same minerals at a high price is a clear example of cheating.
He is buying cheap and selling expensive which isnt mentioned anywhere as far as i see.
Personally i dont think that cheating page is really that good, although staff members will be able to define cheating better. It is extremely vague and basically says if anything you do gives you some type of advantage it could be cheating, so technically alot of things people do could end up being called cheating.
Not that this makes any difference to me anymore and i wont be making any more posts on anything, just waiting to decide who to give my remaining paids to then i can leave all my accounts
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Seifer
Parasite stop spamming the food market . The max amount of food you can hold is 2 BILLION ( read - 2,000,000,000) so at least save up to a million or so and then post .
"The reason for posting 10K and 20K is because thats what I produce and I am limited to 15 post." Can`t you research for a day and then post?
It`s not a tactic, it`s spamming and it`s annoying to most players
"The reason for posting 10K and 20K is because thats what I produce and I am limited to 15 post." Can`t you research for a day and then post?
It`s not a tactic, it`s spamming and it`s annoying to most players
it`s to prevent people to post like 10k at a price 50% below the market or something like that
"Players however are allowed to sell cheap minerals at 9,999,999 units of any quantity. If you wish to lower the price, then try to post up a few billion worth of minerals"
oO so player are allow to sell low low price stuff only when they post in huge quantity at 9999999?? other than that its consider illegal.. weird rules.. lol..
oO so player are allow to sell low low price stuff only when they post in huge quantity at 9999999?? other than that its consider illegal.. weird rules.. lol..
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FireStormZOP
Agm rule one is about transfering money *intentionally* to another player by selling your good to them (at an arranged time) cheeply so they can sell at market value...
And youre welcome, you can alsways be my low end supplier who makes less off of his food than I do..
And youre welcome, you can alsways be my low end supplier who makes less off of his food than I do..
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Parasite
vehystrix : The reason for posting 10K and 20K is because thats what I produce and I am limited to 15 post. Then I go back to researching. The low quality will discourage mega empires from waisting time buying such small qualities repeatedly. It gives other players a chance to buy really needed supplies by slipping in between people like FireStormZ who wants one large post of billions , so he can buy the market out at lower prices , turn around and sell at higher prices.
AGM94 : Read the rules ( bottom of page the part FireStormZ skipped over ) where the heading is : " DEFINATION OF CHEATING " , go down to " Case " , and read " Example 1 ". You say " its a tactic " , but does that make it right , or legal . If we give the new players a little help here and there , warn them of pit-falls , help them understand the game concepts and ultimate goals ; do you think they will come back ? Or should we bash them as they come out of DP and strip them of all dignity along with their planets .
My prices are not high , I agree , but they are twice what it cost to make ( from my understanding of the game , food cost 4-5 to produce and I was selling at 10. A modest profit , ( thanks FireStormZ , ) but not under market value , well under greedy players mark-up. I must say , I could not keep the market stocked fast enough . If the Game Guides tell me to stop , I will . I just think this is another " tactic " as AGM94 puts it.
AGM94 : Read the rules ( bottom of page the part FireStormZ skipped over ) where the heading is : " DEFINATION OF CHEATING " , go down to " Case " , and read " Example 1 ". You say " its a tactic " , but does that make it right , or legal . If we give the new players a little help here and there , warn them of pit-falls , help them understand the game concepts and ultimate goals ; do you think they will come back ? Or should we bash them as they come out of DP and strip them of all dignity along with their planets .
My prices are not high , I agree , but they are twice what it cost to make ( from my understanding of the game , food cost 4-5 to produce and I was selling at 10. A modest profit , ( thanks FireStormZ , ) but not under market value , well under greedy players mark-up. I must say , I could not keep the market stocked fast enough . If the Game Guides tell me to stop , I will . I just think this is another " tactic " as AGM94 puts it.
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Angst
Lowering the prices of food is a great thing keep up the good work.
Parasite - "We of Quality Foods Max" hahah classic ^^
yep the market rises and falls u must adapt or perish.. right now its a collectives Prime Time for profit.. Gc tip Plan Plan ahead and if need be play the market to ur end. econimics can be just as deadly as Fighting In the Game of War
the food prices are good as they are and i hope they stay that way muhahahaha
Jeeez bickering like n00bs. shhh....
when he posts a bill, you can still buy 10k from him, it`s just less annoying since there won`t be a million of small time posts
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Valkyrie
Besides and Besides.. He is selling it at 10k and 20k.. It is easy to buy those versus.. 100k or up.
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Valkyrie
Jee some of you boys are a bunch of babies. What is this girl going to do with all of you? lol
This is a game that is competitive to the very end. If you don`t like how Parasite is using the market, buy his stuff and sell it back to the market. Haha I`m doing it and not complaining because I can afford it. When I first became a collective, I had a hard time making money. I had to sell the bits of food that I had for 9 cash or lower. Now the market is up, and I am taking an advantage of it.
This is a game that is competitive to the very end. If you don`t like how Parasite is using the market, buy his stuff and sell it back to the market. Haha I`m doing it and not complaining because I can afford it. When I first became a collective, I had a hard time making money. I had to sell the bits of food that I had for 9 cash or lower. Now the market is up, and I am taking an advantage of it.
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FireStormZOP
AGM,
Then what will happen is newer players like me will cut over to collective of agri maru and supply will increase. Nobody weeps for the agri empires when food is down low enough to put pressure on them.
There are plenty of virals who seem to be doing just fine on the server perhaps they have invested at least a little into commercial to ride out hard times..
Then what will happen is newer players like me will cut over to collective of agri maru and supply will increase. Nobody weeps for the agri empires when food is down low enough to put pressure on them.
There are plenty of virals who seem to be doing just fine on the server perhaps they have invested at least a little into commercial to ride out hard times..
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AGM94
Its not against the rules to buy cheap on the market and sell it more expensive and its a tactic used against tax empires keeping the prices high although i never particularly liked it that much myself, with the prices that high tax virals are forced to vm and it also can drive new players away from the game when they have to pay so much for food.
nobody cares that you post at low prices, just don`t spam every bit of food. Wait until you have like a billion, and post it, way less annoying
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