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1week till T emp H mow edit`s

Started by Maraudian · 20/05/2008 · 06:54 PM · 236 replies · 6 reads
M MaraudianOP
OP 20/05/2008 · 06:54 PM
well im going on vacation tomorrow to turkey for a week , during that time ive decided to make this thread , im sure some people have already noticed L emerald and G corrundam build rates have dropped to 1 , and that we now have the ability to edit ships

so as planned a long time ago the T emp and the H Mow will receive edits.

personally ide like to see the H MoW remain a small starbase but with lots of firepower and no defence ( weird for a starbase but well i feel that kind of ship would suit collective best , but hell thats me and im just plain weird ) this excludes capital ship talk and such , the ship must remain small and be built in number

now T emp isnt going to have a rebuild , just an improvement , and not big ones.

over the next week feel free to Politely discuss both ships and all your idea`s on the matter

i dont want to come back and see flaming edits and insults thrown all over the place , i also dont want to see emo comments like ` whats the point ` and such

if i come back and like what i see in here ( in terms of no flaming and such )

i will then work on D maru ships / race with everyone to make the race balanced and playable for UW users.

Edited by Maraudian on 2008-05-20
T ThEpAkIsTaNIeMpIrE
25/05/2008 · 10:44 PM
that sucks, good for other pple what drunk has like so many lol.
420Renegade Admin
Admin 25/05/2008 · 10:10 PM
Most likely from now on =p
C {Ching}
25/05/2008 · 08:54 PM
Is the D Maru race gona be available for all who have completed a UW in the past, or just those that complete one from now?

from when its implimented im afraid :-(

Edited by Maraudian on 2008-05-29
420Renegade Admin
Admin 25/05/2008 · 08:20 PM
Rag, the emp does terrible against even a few monkeys with pea-shooters =p
R Ragnarok
25/05/2008 · 02:43 PM
Oh, and incidentally, spam for spam, the T Emp does terribly against the capitol ships but I think most people knew that already since we`re talking about changing its stats. ;)
R Ragnarok
25/05/2008 · 02:40 PM
And as for giving D Maru this ability, it wouldn`t necessarily have to be 10 times the value of the ship it kills. Maybe equal value or half the value given the low cost and upkeep. But again I doubt the code allows for something like that, and I doubt stephen would be willing to come up with the code. ;)
R Ragnarok
25/05/2008 · 02:35 PM
Umm deiloche, for one i don`t think most people can build up to 100 million pr with pure t. emp spam and not lose dozens of billions of credits unless your income was 12 million a turn or something (like one of those RT or ultra server players, in which case that kind of cash it pocket change).

But even lower levels the rewards aren`t really that great if you use it realistically. If I killed 100 nirvana with a T Emp Spam, I would get 17,541,000 credits. But I would have wasted maybe 90 million credits in lost income or outright loss in cash building the fleet (esp if I built it all at once). And of course you`re going to suffer casualties (T. Emp currently doesn`t have no retal so it will die a lot like it does now if it remains unchanged) and you`re going to have to rebuild it over and over again. Now put the "pirate-y ability" on the nirv and herc and yea I could see how this would be cause for concern. :P

And granted if I killed 5 million pr worth of runners on defense and people keep hitting me with that, then yea you could get a LOT of money really fast so it`s highly abusable.

But like you mentioned, I wasn`t really serious about the idea. =P
D Deiloche
25/05/2008 · 12:32 PM
Question for Maraudian, before I commit myself to working on optimizing a design... how easily can you create and/or edit ships? Is this something that we could introduce a mostly-complete ship into the system and tweak it as necessary, or do I need to put hours into simulating to test it before a design is finalized?

it takes seconds to edit from my experience but ive never actually used it , this is a feature headadmin has only and you need to pester that person alot ^_^

making new ships however isnt going to be easy as from what i recall we have very little space left , i believe we filled those with D class ships them beefed them to make a NPC

Edited by Maraudian on 2008-05-29
D Deiloche
25/05/2008 · 12:29 PM
Uhmm... the T.Emp is a terran ship... not a guardian one. ^^;
T ThEpAkIsTaNIeMpIrE
25/05/2008 · 12:22 PM
we are talking about a race with -95 modifiers on everything and no way to make money here
D Deiloche
25/05/2008 · 12:17 PM
That was a demonstration of 100 mill PR. You constantly attack people within your income range, and there is zero cost with massive fiscal rewards. You`re supposed to think the whole thing through before you reply. :P
R Ragnarok
25/05/2008 · 09:58 AM
Yea, that would be a good point. If you`re gonna build up and defeat 100 million pr worth of ship with T Emp (esp if it has its current weapon stats), then you`re gonna spend way more than you get back in terms of upkeep. Plus you are bound to suffer casualties too.

But that wouldn`t necessarily stop people from trying to abuse this system by arranging battles in some way and make insane cash relatively quickly. Anyways this would involve some code tampering, which only Stephen can do and I doubt he`d bother with that.

But it`s a fun idea anyways, esp if you could apply it to the Dark Maru somehow. You can make them like pirates from another dimension with enormous ships which cost a lot to make but not so much to maintain (like the guard). However, instead of tax like guard or massive plunder income like regular maru, they would make money by destroying ships. They could also plunder planets for cash, but the income would be about the same as a terran when they plunder which isn`t much but then the scale would be the same in ship upkeep and cost too.

And the cash gotten wouldn`t necessarily be 10x the cost of the ship, but it would be something. =P
T ThEpAkIsTaNIeMpIrE
25/05/2008 · 05:08 AM
no it aint, its unrealistic in other sense, but it would take you generaly 40 billion to get there and you get back 10-15 billion would be fine, i wonder if they would make it into a race that would be kinda nice, fight ships for money.
D Deiloche
25/05/2008 · 03:19 AM
Now, I know you weren`t serious, but I`m just gonna point something out...

The cost of building a ship is generally roughly 10x it`s PR. So say you take out 100 mill PR with this pirate ship, getting 10x that in value... so 100x 100 mill... 10 billion credits. ^^; Just a bit... unrealistic. ^^;
R Ragnarok
24/05/2008 · 03:34 PM
Hey I know. Make the purpose of the T emp to be that of a pirate ship so that every ship it kills gives you money. The amount you get is whatever the fixed value of the ship it kills is times 10, killing a nirvana (value 175,410) would net you 1,754,100. But you would only get this amount added to your total cash if you wear an eye patch and yell "AARRRRRR" at the exact moment you click the attack button. =P
D DrunkenMasters
24/05/2008 · 02:35 PM
Old stand-bys lmao, no. Emp is pure crab at this current state, expensive and worthless, the worst battleship in the game. Give it a purpose to live, I gave my idea as an anti-borr solution, because every race(besides maru which is attacking race) have a ship capable of doing pretty well against borr on careful(livids, rubys/tourms , bark/gall/pinnace). Give the terrans one as well.
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