Petition for Stephen planning

There are several groups of people who have been considering cloning GC (DrunkenMasters and I, for one). I don`t know about the other groups, but DM and I are lacking in being able to make the multiuser application part... the workings of the game itself we could do with ease. I`m a C programmer, so I don`t exactly have a whole lot of experience with the higher end applications.

However, I would sooner have Stephen begin fixing up his own game, and I am sure a lot of us would too. We already have established empires here, and this is an established community. If we can get Stephen to give GC the glory it deserves, I`m all for it.

I would propose including UW bugs in a future update suggestion for Stephen. I remember that in the past effort was put into fixing some of the various UW bugs, but those bugs are much more difficult to find, locate, and fix compared to the simpler things I suggested. We should probably stick to keeping things simple and relatively easy to begin with while we get Stephen interested again in the game that was once his pride and joy.

Most of you seem to agree with the ideas I put forth for our first proposal to Stephen. Please PM my ultra account a "Yes" if you support the proposition. Feel free to PM comments and concerns, and if anybody wants to help me drafting up the proposal, it would be much appreciated. As well, please PM "No" to me if you oppose the ideas I have suggested. If I receive too many "No"s, then obviously we cannot carry through with the planned proposal, as the idea is to decide as a community what to do before we bring it to Stephen.

(If we decide to go through with the proposal, I will create a thread to discuss the viral upkeep specifics, as we should decide as a community what we want for viral upkeep before we submit it to Stephen. On the other hand, we do not need to write new missions for Stephen unless he accepts the proposal and our help.)

If you realy think you could find people to clone i have ideas to make it work, but i have no tech background so i dont know how to program. My thoughts.

1. Find a group of people with free time and programing skills. This way if you have lots of people working on it things could get done.
2. If you do this have a meeting on like a forum page or something to discuss what needs to be done and then everyone work on their part.
3. Then after its finished have people who are willing to update it for free and when they get tired of it have them pass the ability to update on to someone else to prevent this from happening again.

Just a thought but doubt people could work together that long without arguing over it. And it would also have to be free to make people form here go over to the new GC. Still probably wont happen :(

stephen hasnt got GC copyrighted as pandy said before

if I had the time, I`d clone GC

is that guy still even at it? lol. tryint to clone gc. lol

That is a major part of why we have no updates. Stephen doesn`t want them screwing up GC... ^^;
lol so screw uc lmao

i wish we could copy right probs and then much more anfit could though but we have to put everything for free if we clone

ooh ooh, are we getting back to the discussion on who`s going to clone GC?

how about five points and then send it ot him for a start.
if not.........then steal GC

Maybe, but I think we`re the closest to getting changes with this thread that we`ve been since I joined. I get the impression Stephen is, or at least was proud of this game. Financial arguments aside, if we can give him some motivation to start making changes then the rest will follow from there.

I think the reason we see no updates anymore is that it`s been so long since Stephen did the programming, that he no longer remembers what his code is actually doing. Even if he went in and fixed something obviously simple like the mineral bug, he won`t be able to find that spot in his code =P

I guess there`s a lot of things that could be fixed. Let`s not make this another one of those threads though.

Lets keep in mind the reason for this thread is, in the words of Pandy, to `all agree to a few simple ideas to start with, itemise them, present them in a business type format`.

Stephen has no obligation to update the game, and it seems no inclination. The point of this thread is that if we speak as a community perhaps we can change his inclination.

To progress how about people answer the following question: Anyone have objections to Deil progressing with Pandy`s suggestion using the 3 changes in the original post, as a starting point?

As many people have pointed out before - if we can get some changes implemented, without complaints from the community, then it`s a good start for getting more substantial changes made.

and after UW bugs - you should be able to use artifacts + the guy having successful UW shouldn`t get attacked while he has already restarted and is in np

I thought of a couple of UW bugs (?) too-
The Blue Orb reset to 2- should this be fixed?
When collectives attack UW holders who have capturing ships but the attacks do no damage- like when Wingnut (I think) hit Asmodai really hard and it didn`t do anything.

vacation mode
people who enter vacation mode for a week cant enter it for 3/4 days again like same when you attack cant vac for 24 hours if u loss and have no borders with a c3

this would cut down vacation moders to the real people who need it

eg fakers go one week and use turns then go again this way they have to come out for 1 fight AT LEAST

people who are in serious need of vacation will *acutally* use the proper amount of time they need to be away for surgery or whatever

and yes fix elections

Well, this one is not so much a suggestion. As it`s tweaking and return were promised to us... I would LOVE to have Elections back. Along with the cloak & dagger tactics that came included.

And d@mn the whiners. I`ve been anaboliked, and have done so myself many times. It was a part of the game I always enjoyed.



As for updates, I can add those at a slightly later time. I`ve got far too many to type at the moment.

Yep, took lets see what, 3 years for admins to finally mess with ship modifiers and only the head admin can do changes with that.

whoa, he doesnt want ppl screwing up GC? no way!

May I suggest a comprehensive manual . It seems , to me , that the Game-Guides are answering the same questions over and over. ( i.e. How do I get more turns. How can I get out of debt . How can I get out of slavery . How do I build ships . What is an X.Class or S.Class planet and what is it good for . What is the Capsule Lab , Kalzul Overmind Project . )
I understand that many of these questions can be found by searching through the manual , in most cases . Some may require looking in different parts and making several page searches . Possible place them all in one area . ( Terran , Race properties , Technology , Ships , Paid and Non-Paid accounts , Planet Management , Stacking and Attacking . )
You Vets get the drift of my ideal , is it achievable or does it need to be done ?

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