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Ultimate Weapon Promotions

Started by Maraudian · 05/02/2008 · 10:36 PM · 160 replies · 1 read
M MaraudianOP
OP 05/02/2008 · 10:36 PM
yes theres been a few ultimate weapons recently so its not the best timing for this , but the fact there has been a few recently should have opened alot of eyes to a fun area of the game that nobody really shows much interest in , my belief is its too hard for the petty gains you get , so for a long time i came up with idea`s possible for an Admin to do.

below is a list of current and extra features that can all be implimented , are balanced , and greatly increase the apeal of launching an Ultimate Weapon :-
1. Name in hall of fame
2. Restart Any Race
3. 90% damage to all none fed members

4. Carry one ship research over from the race you activate it to the race you become ( Excluding Guardian ) i also feel this idea is great for stacking ( more UW`s = another research + past ones so eventually you could have your own lucas empire )

if this idea is to be added although ive already spent a extreemly long time investigating and the scariest thing imaginable is A miners with D angels / pyth , players must know that if any form of impossabilities exploits or loopholes are found the ships can be removed , however i have tested this and doubt it can go wrong , lucas himself can easily be beaten by stacks or none stacks at any power by any race etc

5. a super/perfect planet reward for your new empire , the choice is yours , the planet must be single not cluster ( for example 10k Barren / fertile / Eden ) land size of the single planet can be discussed and even alter per gamespeed or w/e before being added.

6. artifact package , the contents of the package again is discussable for each gamespeed but an example would be ( 25 regalo / 10 BTC / 6 PCC )

Notes:
Gaurdians are excluded from 4. so G class from A miner also wont carry over.
virals only research is the scout
none exploration race cant explore with scout

Edited by Maraudian on 2008-02-05
T ThEpAkIsTaNIeMpIrE
12/02/2008 · 10:00 AM
so a maruu can fight for planets it would be like exploring
M MaraudianOP
12/02/2008 · 05:46 AM
well turnbased come with bigger challenges however turnbased servers tend to have much more dominence than realtime so for those who rule the server can pretty much keep everyone away from any UW regardless of race
D Deiloche
11/02/2008 · 06:22 PM
A maru fight UW has been done, however.
P Perseus
11/02/2008 · 05:46 PM
a maru EXPLORE uw would be impossible :S
B bipbippy
11/02/2008 · 04:55 PM
while a Maru UW on RT might be difficult, I imagine it would be much less difficult on a slower server.
I Infernal
11/02/2008 · 02:44 PM
oh a maru UW cant be done?
are u so sure?
Y Yoyoyogurt
11/02/2008 · 12:53 PM
hellsfurry, theres no chance in hell that a maru explore uw would work deeming the fact that the cant explore :P
H HellsFury
11/02/2008 · 11:07 AM
nobody has to imagine getting any d.class.... only chance a maru is getting a successful uw off anytime soon is an explore.... which very seldomly even have a small chance of working
A ArchAng3l
11/02/2008 · 09:09 AM
point 4 states "carry one ship research..." so i guess its one ship not the whole class..

*imagine miner getting all the d.class ship* :S

well there are some ship research out there that give more than one ship when researched , something i dont like and would like to be able to fix up , but when / if the idea is added it hopefully will be just one ship or excluding ship research that give multiple ships such as pike and tiger for maru

Edited by Maraudian on 2008-02-11
T ThEpAkIsTaNIeMpIrE
11/02/2008 · 09:07 AM
thanks, like so i can bring anything i have a small question now like you know p class if i do a terran uw do i get all the p class or one ship from it ?
A ArchAng3l
11/02/2008 · 08:57 AM
erm.. i don really understand guard are excluded from 4.. it mean guardian ship like lictor cant be brought over to other race.. wat about setting off uw and bring ship over to guardian race??

guardian are completely excluded , you wont be able to have other race ships as guardian , for balancing and for storyline

Edited by Maraudian on 2008-02-11
Y Yoyoyogurt
11/02/2008 · 08:27 AM
you still wouldnt be able to explore tpe.
collectives ships do already have ships with scanner ratings already
its just programmed that they cant explore
T ThEpAkIsTaNIeMpIrE
11/02/2008 · 08:20 AM
what about if i am viral do a uw take the scout to collective will i be able to explore
B Bran
10/02/2008 · 11:34 PM
one ship would be ok
B Bran
10/02/2008 · 11:29 PM
nope:
"Maraudian
4 day(s) ago as stated above im all for it being stackable ( more than one )"

lets get this straight bran , this is a conversation over the idea`s , were you can be for or not for , meaning that although im all for them being a collectible item meaning a ` old player ` will keep restarting making him a ` young player ` and giving the ` younger players ` the chance to become the ` big empires ` , it doesnt mean it will happen.

Edited by Maraudian on 2008-02-11
I Infernal
10/02/2008 · 11:17 PM
bran, if u read right, ud have noticed that we carry over only 1 of the ships that was researchable before the boom. meaning, u get max 1 extra ship. thats it!
D DrunkenMasters
10/02/2008 · 10:38 PM
I don`t think the game is THAT elitist if it`s played in the right way. People need brains to get stronger without equal start, true. But it`s far from impossible. Look at deiloche`s ultra empire for instance, he already has balzac`s and smiley`s income being way younger.
B Bran
10/02/2008 · 09:51 PM
I wasn`t intending to flame but you implied that I had half a brain for disagreeing with you lol. It`s not just a single ship if they accumilate, ok people will oppose UW`s more vehemently but people will still succeed. Someone like Anfit could have a good few extra ships in his arsenal. So he has a new empire but compared to a brand new player he would have big advantages, aside from being more skilled etc. OK so we defeat the ships on a regular basis but that`s not the point it`s different when another race has them on top of their usual ships. You can`t argue that it gives that person a great advantage over anyone else playing the same race. As unlikely as it may be carrying a marauder or collective ship over to A Miner is scary as some people have already said, but it has been done before and I`ve no doubt it will be done again. The game already works against new players with turn based research giving older empires the advantage, I don`t think it`s in the game`s best interests to discourage them further. It would make the game even more elitist than it is now

as a person who sets lucas asmodai kalzul and dark marauders up and tests all ships i think im capable of telling you lucas is as garbage as any other empire vs stacks and spams of large varieties , his only advantage is the exact same as a viral , you dont know what to aim at him , ive seen asmodai and lucas wiped out from below from blind atacks a fair lot of times , if anything the fact you know they stack makes them easier to beat than normal empires :/

Edited by Maraudian on 2008-02-11
M MaraudianOP
10/02/2008 · 08:55 PM
but put your flaming aside, this suggestion is to make old empires become new in exchange for a single ship that you fight and defeat on a regular basis anyhow , that then means the new empires become the old empires with an advantage making a perfect cycle

the only way this can be taken advantage of by older players is them allowing UW`s and for that they then lose 90% of everything giving other empires an upper hand at overtaking them
M MaraudianOP
10/02/2008 · 08:49 PM
you are completely wrong because ive been asking since a week after the ships were shiplist was nerfed , as stated back then guardian would have a 1 week trial to see how big the affects were ( although i agreed they needed to be dropped before hand it may have been a suitable advantage for guardians ). not my fault you dont know about it.
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