not-smart invinci`s

Its funny how everyone "assumes" that 1 planet terrans can`t produce anything...

I think it was JuMaster who had what was it... 60k? homeworld... or maybe it was 40k... I can`t remember...

But I do beleive there are a few old empires still around with massive homeworlds. Although in all likelyhood they have all died out to inactivity.

So... Maruadin... explain to me how you can kill an empire who has the land mass of approximatly 2 decent C2`s on a homeworld that cannot be taken? Counters? Sure...

well you know i can only hald agree since. * i do or Did enslave in fast and now im just sitting there* ^;^
this is a very large reason of why GC is dieing and is not getting very may new players. all the newbies* are suddenly attacked>enslaved while they are still trying to learn and get used to the game. they get discouraged and leave. a good majority of them could be dam good players too.

If you`re collective you needn`t fear the slavers - they won`t chase you so just keep apart in power. You`ve got nothing to gain by hitting them but same goes for them. For a slaver having planets is the same as painting a big `target` on your back

enslaving is a pretty hard tactic man. I was at it for awhile on fast and only got up to about a quarter billion per day and wasnt doing much more than breaking even. Trust me, when their out of dp at a million pr their more afraid of you than you are of them, basically for the same reason, they`d probably gain nothing but a loss of ships for attacking you thus they have to just let you be. But their not sure you`ll do the same.

7ofborg:

Slaving is *not* easy.. For one thing you generate almost no minerals (even a one planet miner fed). So you need to be buying allot in the way of material. If you want to defend your slaves for any amount of time (especially if you play the middle ranks) you need to end up with 2-3 stacks left over after you go into dp, and then you have to build star bases to push those to the 4th and 5th stack. I tired it for a bit and found myself bleeding money for relatively little return. I lasted a few days before I realized the fun of wining 80-90% of my battles was not worth the hassle of alwys wondering where my next meal was going to come.

You want to piss them off? Play as a miner and set up your empire as a goods selling machine. At one point I was making 100K per turn selling goods on the market and only 4k a turn on taxes. When enslaved I was losing about 600 a turn and for that my `master` was losing ships (and more importantly the minerals) defending me left and right.

hear hear!

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Enslaving isn`t easy at all mate! It`s tough as hell... i should know, trust me.

7ofborg is just bummed cause i`ve been hitting him... well, it is a `war` game mate, and your defense fleet is pathetic so put 2 and 2 together and you get? `OWNED` mate.

well 7ofborg people do that u know why cuz thats fun way to make money and a nice tactic even though u wont make much but still bored do it i would i dont know about u its called tactics for newbies and people who are great at the game and can fight why u care i should care all of jack sparrows slaves are wooping my azz cuz jack sparrow sends them hercs and stuff and plus just attack the newbs and have fun with no colony LOL plus its not annoying and as i said its a tactic

/me enslaves enslaving and punishes!

/me enslaves moops and make him do things

/me enslaves the forum

bwaha!

sounds like a interesting tactic :-o

the best option is .. to steal all their women .. yes .. all your babes belong to me! mwhhaha :D

it`s things like this that make the game interesting - ppl find new ways to play when they get bored or scared

If you are truly THAT afraid of them, do a scout attack, hitting them with only Fodders. Then stack against what they have. It`s quite simple, really.

an example is a 1 planet empire cant produce anything while you can , be it money minerals or artifacts

a 1 planet empire cant fuse artifacts and will basicly lose money and materials till it runs dry or they change style

forcing a terran or A miner into debt has nothing to do with how good or new they are , ok if the empire has a large stash of minerals that could easily get them out of max debt with lots to spare the method`s would take a fairly good federation or more and alot of bullying in order to do so but for a 1 planet unprepared empire a little planning and use of tactics and you can easily disable punish bully kill and so on , every play style has weaknes and downsides

you said it is possible to kill terran and A miner empires? how is this possible. assuming they arent complete not-smarts and drive themselves into debt it doesnt actually seem possible to kill them. especially as you call them slavers, who get thier money not according to thier own turn expenditure but as according to someone elses

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By that logic all terran empires are invincible even if they have one hundred colonies because other than driving them into debt you cant kill them.. Your beef is not with the style its with the fact terrans and miners cant lose their home world..

7ofborg:

Slaving is *not* easy.. For one thing you generate almost no minerals (even a one planet miner fed). So you need to be buying allot in the way of material. If you want to defend your slaves for any amount of time (especially if you play the middle ranks) you need to end up with 2-3 stacks left over after you go into dp, and then you have to build star bases to push those to the 4th and 5th stack. I tired it for a bit and found myself bleeding money for relatively little return. I lasted a few days before I realized the fun of wining 80-90% of my battles was not worth the hassle of alwys wondering where my next meal was going to come.

You want to piss them off? Play as a miner and set up your empire as a goods selling machine. At one point I was making 100K per turn selling goods on the market and only 4k a turn on taxes. When enslaved I was losing about 600 a turn and for that my `master` was losing ships (and more importantly the minerals) defending me left and right.

7ofborg its a war game , cry to your enemy in this game and they will just laugh at you and bully your empire till you surrender quit or counter , why ? because its a war `Game`

people enjoy all the fighting all the different tactics and all the challenge , thats what makes this game tick so much better than any other`s

Edited by Maraudian on 2007-10-17

its possible to kill any empire even terrans and A miners