unfair..!

aminers built rates are decent , really . With the much improved starbases and the shields for lictor there isnt really much you can ask for ^_^

and how is it unfair?
lyth-60k
lictor-50k
livid-25k
aragonite-40k
flysch-28k

Are these bad build rates? Well, maybe in comparison with virals and guards(that are supposed to be at high PR), but as a whole it`s still pretty dang good.

the problem at hand is that nerfing affects spammers the most haha

Please quit attacking the person and focus on the problem at hand.

And whoever says he never spams is simply a LIAR!

Yeah that`s my point... all Yoshi know is spam... what i`m saying doesn`t reflect the miner race.. it`s the thread creator itself.. - pwned -

And I have to add that all of the miners in the thread DO SPAM haha(I am in the thread and I also spam :P).

Someone said wine :P Give me some haha

if you defend right as miner... you won`t have to spam/base to counter ;P

Aehm, Deiloche, probably you are wrong. One has to divide the matter in two subpoints:

1.) As the buildrate of big ships is up to 5 times bigger than that of the cruiser class, the buildrate advantage is by far overcompensating the disadvantages of bigger ships like smaller range. Therefore e4eryone builds big ships. And therefore a GENERAL cut in buildrates will make big-ship spamming less attractive and so probably promote stacking.

2.) If one cuts the buildrate of miners ONLY, then exactly the opposite effect sets in. As miners must compete with the now faster-building races, they have to spend now more turns to reach their pr-level, i.e., they have even less turns available to spend for building low-buildrate ships. Therefore a selective weakening of miners makes stacking even more disadvantageous.

Armenia: No... I`m afraid you`re wrong. Sorry, try again.

I agree with Yoshi a bit... but at the same time thats all i ever saw Yoshi do was spam...

It doesnt promote stacking TPE, it instead makes more efficient to spam now, because building a balanced stack will take longer.

lol... TPE

Yoshi close this thred nothing is going to cahnge your mad because all you do is spam haha

yoshi its fine lol it keeps pple from spaming and it now u can stack lol dude dont wine pls lol

For once i agree with Yoshi every race can out build us ecept collective well you will have another problem soon because all the a.miners are change races because they cant fight

there will be no minerals on the market just the black market

Hey dani, ever considered, that it is quite hard to base up, if e4eryone except collectives outbuild you?

The A.Miners are fine right now.

Yoshi : Live with it then.. miners are filthy rich.. IMO for you..base up and counter high