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To easy finish kalzul overmind

Started by krabbengat · 07/09/2007 · 11:15 PM · 24 replies · 0 reads
K krabbengatOP
OP 07/09/2007 · 11:15 PM
I think it is to easy to finish the kalzul overmind project. When you spam whole the time starbases and scout just before you got out dp it is easy to reach the 48 hour.

There is now no strategy needed to reach the 48 hours (only get enough minerals en credits). When the rules will be changed that you get out dp when you build a starbase, that would improve the game. Then there is team work needed and more strategy to reach it.

I think that would improve the game.
E EvilPandy
11/09/2007 · 06:17 PM
ok then prove your point and do it krabbengat.
T ThEpAkIsTaNIeMpIrE
11/09/2007 · 07:57 AM
hmm viral spam hercules and brolly lolz

or the miner kiddy one lol
lyth
flysh
lictor
spam 4 life lolz
i dont like spam as much anymore lolz
C chessRPGrulerKoA
11/09/2007 · 07:28 AM
Miners will still spam the same as they always have, you are all making the small change look much bigger than it really is, especially for real time.
G GalacticMercenaries
10/09/2007 · 10:44 AM
Well a.miners or collective cant spam any more because it is just to hard with the nurf and low build rates but every other race can spam thats bull dung

lower the other races build rates on the big ships almost every terran - viral - gard spams
M Maraudian
10/09/2007 · 07:07 AM
K hun li , K hun xe , C class strafez L class or something , loads of other stacks , ive had a full 10 stack beat numerous spams and gave me the pleasure of evil counter atacks or simple alterations to beat there next predicted spam etc , but thats guard vs guard. so not really a great example , but typical thinking path for it is ` the spamming guardian will pawn the stacking guardian ` and it is majorly true nowadays but aaanyhows
B Baley
10/09/2007 · 04:08 AM
Sol, show me several stacks that can successfully defend against a Ruby/Tourm/K attack on careful and will not get creamed against anything else and then maybe I`ll agree that spam sucks.

True, beating spam with a balanced stack is not that hard when you`re the one attacking (especially since you usually have an idea of what you`re going against), but when defending against a careful attack it`s a whole different story.
E EvilAbadayos
09/09/2007 · 07:41 PM
You pretty much agreed on what I have been saying in your last line.
S Sol
09/09/2007 · 05:41 PM
I have several battle reports showing that stacking beats spamming on many occasions. im not saying ive never lost to a spammer im not saying ive never spammed.
BUT i beat spammers a lot more than they beat me

im not saying that spamming isnt a perfectly viable battle tactic. im just saying that in my opinion a stack is better. (esp in RT and Ultra)
E EvilAbadayos
09/09/2007 · 07:55 AM
you dont PROVE the point however.

If you can prove it sucks be my guest Sol. Sadly you cannot so need to rely on Mara stating that it sucks with no backup to the argument.

you know it sucks , admit it :p

Edited by Maraudian on 2007-09-10
S Sol
09/09/2007 · 01:29 AM
Evil.

there is my proof. Maraudian says so! :-P
M Maraudian
08/09/2007 · 11:35 PM
spamming sucks , its lame and a complete disapointment when you come across one , it wasnt something that was meant to be a part of the game but just somehow worked good and everyone does it with that excuse / reason so yar

but spamming sucks , yall know it does :p

who needs proof , it sucks =)
M Maraudian
08/09/2007 · 11:31 PM
without reading below , and only the above , go do it then , end of story
E EvilAbadayos
08/09/2007 · 03:30 PM
how so Sol?

Spamming is just as effective as stacking and is popular for this reason amongst others like the following:

- Faster
- hitting with a spam on careful generally wins atleast 1 colony
- generally lower upkeep than a stack of same PR
- easy to do and helps new players learn how battles are done

the bad things are:
-lacks tactics generally
- lacks forthought and can be very hard to beat at times (also a good thing for the spammer)


Now prove to me that spamming is the worst tactical mistake without a doubt?

I doubt you can because most of the high planet/pr players ARE spammers and get to be `successful` by learning how to spam effectivly. It is the fastest way to get borders, outclimb counters, counter someone or just get to a cirtain high PR in a hurry.

Please prove me wrong.
S Sol
08/09/2007 · 03:23 PM
Evil if you had actually taken the time to intel me you would know that i havent been here very long,k however spam is the worst tactical mistake any player can make whilst attempting to win battles.
F forald
08/09/2007 · 12:58 PM
i think what he means is that the kalzul overmind requires too little skill, just hard work (earning lots of cash) and a determined mind (to stay awake 48hours). well, there`s still skill required in stacking, getting allies and the timing of your exploring if you ask me. furthermore, you can`t expect such a high level of skill in a simple game like this...
S StormofBladeZ
08/09/2007 · 09:37 AM
lol tru dat Finnegan. i got nothin better to do up here lmao
E EvilAbadayos
08/09/2007 · 05:28 AM
Sol: You obviously havn`t been around too long then.

Karo did a power UW with Pyth/Angel spam on RT
The KZ did a power UW with a massive spam to max PR on RT
50Cent did a power UW on RT
HoneyBucket did one also on RT

All power UW`s are generally spams by the end.

Fodder spam top 2 stacks get wiped out reasonably quickly (within the first 12 to 18 hours depending on support and server activity) then all that is left is the larger fast building ships to maintain a high PR which generally means Pyth, Angel and sometimes the terran big 3 if they can be afforded.

So spams DO work in a UW stack, more specifically 2 spams work well with different shield weaknesses (hence why pyth/angel combo is so effective as they just get swapped every now and then for top spot and then do more damage to the attacking fleet than they receive if the other was ontop.
F Finnegan
08/09/2007 · 03:42 AM
hmm...

Maybe this thread is a joke - I would only look unintelligent if I told you how wrong krabbengat is.

But if someone still thinks that doing a UW is easy, then do it on fast (so I can have some fun)! Eden would so kick your behind ;D
O Omegian
08/09/2007 · 01:33 AM
erm Sol, 3 UWs are exploration UWs, but meh, you rarely see them do it for 48 hours straight.
S Sol
08/09/2007 · 12:56 AM
Kalzul Overmind is the most difficult thing in the game to complete.

coming out of DP from building starbases will never be implemented because a starbase is a non-offensive ship.

and as far as spam goes. no UW has ever won with a spam
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