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Started by Maraudian · 30/08/2007 · 08:07 PM · 322 replies · 12 reads
M MaraudianOP
well yes it was suggested in the A miner post but yar

Herc 1
Lictor 1
Lyth 2
Pyth 2
Angel 2
Nirv 2 everyone wants that if it goes ahead
Tyr fine

these are idea`s liked alot by the majority , we have a few who dont like it and make big offencive rants that generally show they dont know a great deal past there own empire etc ( no offence intended , you play the game too so yar ok )

but those who do know what there talking about and suprising alot of those who do but take advantage of high build rates also like this idea , ive had alot of nice pms too about this and some messages upon waking up saying its a nice idea and to ignore the ranting few who dont care about ` the greater good ` , even turnbased empires like this idea so well this is its thread

i dont wanna hear no viral rants , especially upkeep , ive told you well over a hundred times now the only way i can do it is toedit the marauders ship , and thats unfair on marauder , one of the reasons to be that race is low upkeep.

Edited by Maraudian on 2007-09-04
M Maraudian
i think im currently out of dp on slow , might even still be online , bust recently all ive had time for is infra

with my job , wow , admin etc , a few of my turnbased empires have even lost all there research after me re-activating them due to being so busy i dont even get the chance to log into them , but slow is slow , its you who dont get that point :/
S species382
Well, i perfectly agree with Omegian, Africa, pWn3dN3wb13, and all the others that claim, a reduction of buildrate will make it harder for the ultrabig empires.

Well, however, i also say two things:

1.) I think its a GOOD thing! . The purpose of base pr is that it should actually hinder you fighting, if your empire is (too) big. Common, a 1 mil base pr is currently a joke at up to 100.000 pr per turn builrates, for terrans as well as for virals.

2.) It will be far from beeing impossible to hold big empires. Well, lets get specific: in 100 truns one can builds a 3/4-spam, that means
20 Hercs
45 Nirvs
90 Tyr
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=3 mil pr in 55 turns, plus 7 dummies, makes 62 turns. Leaving 38 Turns for fighting for a non-payer, which is too ashame to vote for the STC, 48 turns to a voter, or 98 turns for a voting payer-player. Now, if one cuts the Herc buildrate, the same stack costs you incredible 10 turns more.

On the other side, here e4ery1 is so proud to be a stacker. If one builds a balanced fleet in 100 Turns, which means approx 2 mil pr or 200.000 pr per stack, then the cut in buildrate cost you exactly 2 turns more for the 4 hercs.

Now i dont know, how hard it is for you to fight, but if you depend on this 2 truns, your empire will not survive long also without an update....

(and if you now want to start attacking me in person, then i have to tell you, i know how it is to have 2C3`s on ultra with a non-paid account.)
D DrunkenMasters
if you think I am biased, let`s get some comments from other turn based players.
D DrunkenMasters
And when are you exactly fighting on slow, I haven`t noticed you in 1 year + time and I am marauder that fights at all PR ranges... And by making a decent empire I mean empire capable of fighting at diverse PR ranges, getting 20 infra and researching garuda then spamming the fleetless newbies is not a BUILT empire imo.
M Maraudian
took me less than a month to set up my empire on slow , simple as that , it isnt a guardian or A miner , its a terran , it isnt a planet hoarder nor a economy empire , its just a plain simple empire i fight on when im bored on other gamespeeds , when im not fighting im increasing the infra with the turns i dont use.

if i wanted a terran A miner viral or collective empire on slow , then ide expect it to be slow , because its called slow server...

its rather obviously going to be slow o.o
M Maraudian
no , as the player in question also has the same build rate as you so its exactly the same even if i dont touch the build rates , so its very wrong unthought out and baised.
D DrunkenMasters
And I don`t know who is the biased one.
D DrunkenMasters
Once again one comment that showed that you don`t know what you are talking about. Build an empire on slow for a month, say it miner or guard. Oh, I didn`t notice, you need at least 3 months to get your ships research and some infra.
D DrunkenMasters
"Any person that attacks me will have the advantage of pr and ships if he plays around my base pr, given fact. " - is that wrong?
M MaraudianOP
i built all my empires perfectly fine in a month thank you , once again a baised comment
D DrunkenMasters
+you can`t build empire on turn based for a month, on RT you can.
M MaraudianOP
1) nobody has infinite turns , every turnspeed has a regen and turn cap to ensure it has challenges , this is less so on DM but still there

2) nobody has infinite any artifact , nor can alot of empires dig

everything your saying is baised and wrong
O Omegian
First of all, I can use game speeds for 2 reasons
1) Its not RT, not infinite turns
2) I dont have infinite stcs, nor can i dig ...

So therefore i have the right to complain about that.

Any person that attacks me will have the advantage of pr and ships if he plays around my base pr, given fact.

And No I dont think you do maraudian because you would take that some terran players have big accounts and you want to hurt them as well.
D DrunkenMasters
So you are calling me a moron now, right?
M MaraudianOP
your the one who doesnt know what your talking about , stop using gamespeeds as your only excuse in this , its a crab excuse and the only one you can use , understandable that you will aim at that excuse but it aint doing you any favours , aint doing anything at all , i dont want a gordoed high power empire on any gamespeed thank you , nor do i wish to fight high power on any gamespeed , thats not how i play but ive been there done that and hell its boring and not something i enjoy , i fight , i make money to fight , thats how i play , im just not moronic enough to asume everyone else plays the same way i do or demand they do so before ill believe they know what there talking about

i understand perfectly well how this game works inside and out , regardless of gamespeed

so how about we Grow Up and stop using the fact i dont have a 1m base power 1 k planet empire on a turnbased server as the only godang comback you can think of to make out i dont know what affects this will have , i know perfectly well every affect this will have

hence why its up there suggested and stated numerous times for the best, this is good for terran , dang i havent heard any other race moan as much as terran on this and they get the most turnwise out of it ...
D DrunkenMasters
Oh, or maybe the best way to play the game is all players to have only larges or 20-40 planets so they have 3 2 land dead planets on border which can change their possession. Woo hoo, that makes my heart beat faster.

every player has his own style of playing , U class is an easy one that doesnt get you ranked or noticed or make you feel ` big ` , also has limitations and lacks the fun of high planet count , sure others can add or differ on each and every path on gc though so yer w/e floats your boat

Edited by Maraudian on 2007-08-31
O Omegian
I have to agree with Africa, Lets see

Guardian - 2mil pr base on Ultra ... yea not going to happen, yep, by reducing build rate this guard cant battle successfully, even with the ships i spam up first and hope i dont get hit till i can use my 150 turns to restack later.

But if i can only build so many ships with the reduced br ... then why bother to fight?

Viral on Fast - hmm 1.1 mil pr base ... yea again not going to happen. Stacking isnt worthy a fight below 10 mil pr for me, but hey if i can only build 1 herc per turn then i guess im screwd arent I?

Way to go to all the cluster big planet players, Maraudian wants you guys gone.

And maraudian, since you love to consider yourself good and think that researching and only holding a c2, why dont you try and tell everyone new why they should do that then. Everyone i tell tries to get planets, many of them, some days they have 72, some days they have 200 ... i have yet to see many go to just using a c2 and doing tons of research, its very boring.

No wonder you dont understand why big planet players hate this idea.

not sure if youve even looked at my empires , not one has a C2 nor makes an income from planets , even my guardian makes money solely from fighting , not that my empires have anything to do with this suggestion

Edited by Maraudian on 2007-08-31
D DrunkenMasters
On another note, don`t blame us for flaming or being childish, we have the right to be childish, the staff doesn`t. And you ARE childish, I can name many people leaving the game simply because of the admins/guides being rude, impolite etc etc
D DrunkenMasters
Maraudian, when you make a terran capable of fighting high PR battles on turn based with gordoed stuff, give me a call. You really don`t have a clue what`s going on slower server and your remarks simply proved it. You can`t dig 5000 turns a day on slow, can`t you... And don`t say "who the hell plays slow nowadays", because there are many people who play only slow and normal. And I think I am doing pretty well with my terran.
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