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A miner Nerf

Started by Maraudian · 30/08/2007 · 03:24 AM · 162 replies · 2 reads
M MaraudianOP
OP 30/08/2007 · 03:24 AM
well yes we made them a taf overpowered , but for the greater good , now were balancing them out so be prepared for the below and dont blame me , this is just a small step to balancing the results ( Major spam abuse of the updated ships resulting in them needing to be tweaked )

M lyth Build rate is now 2 per turn rather than 3 , this is perfectly fine and fair

G lictor is now 1 per turn and all shields were dropped 5% ( no big deal but has haled its build rate and made it a tiny most likely unoticable difference )

M chlor damage reduced 50


this is just a small change that took place a few minutes ago
F FOUNDERS
30/08/2007 · 10:43 PM
TWU thats what i asked in an earlier post would the rest of the capital ships build rate be cut too.
O Omegian
30/08/2007 · 10:38 PM
.... have to agree with Archy with guard br ... also have to agree that collectives will need modifier nerfs, or else you will just see them spam.

also, this nerf is an update

Minor A Miner ship update, see general forum for details

said by your own self Maraudian. This is why other admins left, *agrees*

its a nerf , julatsa added the banner not me , if i added it , it would be PINK , beautyfull pink

Edited by Maraudian on 2007-08-30
T ThEpAkIsTaNIeMpIrE
30/08/2007 · 10:31 PM
come on man a.min er nerf lol well thats bad lolz 50 damage reduced come on lol they suck
S species382
30/08/2007 · 09:37 PM
effectively everything stays the same, but the buildrate of queens get doubled (in a relative measurement)......
T Theworldunited
30/08/2007 · 09:32 PM
the point is founders that all the other capitall ships will be nerfed too so u should be building roughly at the same rate....
F FOUNDERS
30/08/2007 · 09:27 PM
no maraudian you didnt get what i was saying i was chasing a viral to hit him, he didnt have counter on me and i didnt have 1 on him he was 250% above me and with fed war i can only hit 200% above i was building queens all day to go up for him and he was dropped to 250% above me by some1 else so i thought id throw some lyth and lictor behind queens to get upto him but he just out built me and was almost 300% above me in no time.

so my question is

how do i catch up to some1 spamming away from me with the new build rates of lyth and lictor and dont say queen again cause not even a joker would suggest queen can build as fast as pyth angel or herc?


well chasing virals to hit them really isnt something A miners should confidently try and do and expect to win , although its very possible to do this and win , your more likely to lose unless you got ` skill and luck `

but if your chasing after one , all he can build is hmm lets see 2 lyth would be his highest build with the new nerf idea`s , that being 60k , so your both on equal footing in the race ( both going at the same speed ) so you can chase chase chase with the luxary of knowing you have the upper hand as its costing you nothing and him alot building the same ship as you in order to stay at the same distance , but in order to ` catch up ` you need an artifact or a paid ( if he has one ignore that )

if i hadnt changed lyth , then lyth would still be the same, so your entire argument is not-smart and pointless because its just the same speed

and anyone with experience would know queen and runner dont need to be anywere near pyth angel and herc to pawn them

Edited by Maraudian on 2007-08-30
T Theworldunited
30/08/2007 · 09:26 PM
but surly... thats just part of the dificultty that u face with having high planet count?? hvnt got enough skill to keep planets then u deserve to loose them ...... surly thats how it should it be?


attractor--- to quote ureself "can have 6-7 capital ships without enough money for build and keep them, is the same as have nothing. " the point i was trying to make was even tho virals might not make as much as other races they still make more than enough to be able to use any ship they re.........
A Africa
30/08/2007 · 09:04 PM
Well, thats true. I try to stay away from base, cause I dont like fighting with my back against the wall. Besides, are you really throwing the fact that Im making tons of money and are able to sit at huge prs in my face?? It hurts..lol... Besides, its not like people are not trying to take me out. I stay up here until someone takes me down (which Im sure KoA will the moment they set their mind too it)

And Im not complaining. You got it all wrong. Im all for stacking. Im just pointing out the fact that its not easy with big bases (and 150 turns) and dont see why you guys dont see that. So what if we got stc. Wheres yours? You think we have more cause have more planets?

To me a win is a win. Cool, if I win by stacking at 3 mill, but Id rather wipe 30 k borrs and 2 k pyths and angels at high pr. Thats more fun to me.
A Africa
30/08/2007 · 08:51 PM
well, after the attack you wont have turns to rebuild for a defence. Thats for sure.. But then again. having many planets is not meant to be easy.

All Im saying is (and Im not disagreeing with you here) is that using big 3 stacks of cap ships (as terran fx) is sometimes the only way when you have a big base. You might say that 150 turns is enough to cover 1 mill. I can agree to that, but I`ll also say that only 25-35 % of the players know the races and ships well enough to carry out those hits.
And faced with a ballanced viral defensive fleet as a terran at 4 mill pr is not really that great when you need a win to protect that c3. I would go for the sure win any day, the herc/nirv spam on careful, instead of trying to outsmart the viral.
4 420Renegade Admin
Admin 30/08/2007 · 08:48 PM
Ultra, your not likely to be hit all the to fast :/ even as a 600 planet player with a 1m base =P 150 turns is more than enough, 100 with a bit of luck, And most of you got stc`s up the gazoo anyway, so whats with yer yappin?

Not to mention Africa I dont see you within a mile of base, and havent seen you anywhere near there in awhile, so yip yap :/
M MaraudianOP
30/08/2007 · 08:42 PM
150 turns is enough to cover a 1m base

100 yar ok maybe a 6 stack or something and pray some extra turns before someone hits
A Africa
30/08/2007 · 08:42 PM
really maraudian...?? Thought that was too obvious to point out, but ok.. I`ll give you that.

But you still disagree?
M MaraudianOP
30/08/2007 · 08:41 PM
and your most likely to be hit instantly on RT too :/
M MaraudianOP
30/08/2007 · 08:41 PM
you leave with the lowest ammounts of turns on RT actually.
A Africa
30/08/2007 · 08:27 PM
Ultra because its the server where you have to leave dp with lowest amounts of turns ( ie 100-150)

And it doenst matter that others will suffer the same nerf. Thats not really the point. Point is you cant build a fleet with that amount of turns which is both ballanced and which at the same time makes up for your high base pr.
M MaraudianOP
30/08/2007 · 08:19 PM
i have no power to edit just maru ships on viral , i can only edit the ship itself -_-
D Deiloche
30/08/2007 · 08:13 PM
TWU: You`re looking at the worst income in the game and comparing it to two really good ones. You`re just being silly now. Remember, agri terran is more potent than agri viral by a lot, and I think (though I haven`t directly explored this one myself) that tax terran can be quite lucrative as well.

However, that is not to say that I disagree with the point you were making about upkeep. That upkeep is moronically low. We completely agree on that. The upkeep on viral RE ships needs to be fixed to something, although in doing that the price needs to return to normal.

attractor: Simple. You buy a one month paid if you want to play viral... you only have to be paid when you START a race. You don`t need to be paid to stay that race, and usually being a race lasts for a while... as well, you are always capable of restarting as the race you were before, so you can always BE viral once you`ve been viral... so yes, the advantage of a paid account is not really the paid races, that is just the initial reason to get one. The real advantages of a paid account is really the landsize boost on exploring planets, the increased turnrate, and the increased turncap. Those are the things that make a big difference... though I suppose the latter two don`t mean a whole lot on RT.
A Africa
30/08/2007 · 08:11 PM
Maraudian: Drunken does have a point. On ultra with a high base pr (7-800 +) I`d like to see you get borders using a ballanced fleet. You`ll be attacking with a fleet with a total pr lower than the one youre hitting.
You might come out on top 4 times out of 5, but youre gonna loose youre clusters eventually.

And if you dont believe this then its because youre never had that many planets ;)


your forgetting all those empires will suffer the same nerf as you , again piinting out yall not thinking of that

and why on ultra , its pretty much the same on any gamespeed , if you want boarders it was easier to just spam , but not if this is added , it will be a tad more turn costly

Edited by Maraudian on 2007-08-30
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