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An Inconvenient Truth

Started by species382 · 28/08/2007 · 04:41 AM · 60 replies · 1 read
S species382OP
The truth is, GC is dead.

By balancing miner and collective, the admins attemped to give the game a new spin, and these mods for shure added some value to the game. However, not even the more dedicated admins dared to change the game more substantially. In part because they cant, like in the case of the viral upkeep, in part as they dont want, as in the case of rebalancing the t.emp, MOW, or m.clor, and in part as they dont care like the Kryo or the collective battleship.

This is not only a lack of develpment, this stagnation is regression.

Beside this alrteady devastating point, there are at least 3 more mayor problems of the game:


No. 1 problem: viral upkeep

As we all know, the viral usage of angle and pyth is with the greatest problem of the game, it is extremely frustrating for any (paid or unpaid) non-virals, and is probably No.1 reason, why people leave the game. And the game already has way to few players to be considered really fun. It is also my reason, why i will leave the game in near future. I have lost any hope for the game.

As we also all know, the admins can not change the upkeep of the ships separately for virals, and stephen gives a sh*t about the game at all. So one sollution would be, just to increase the income of marauders by the racial modifiers and rise the upkeep of the ships altogether, to at least .7 per pr, or as temporary fix, increase the building costs of the ships for virals by a(nother) factor 10.


No.2 problem: spammming

However, the game suffers from much more problems. The next mayor problem of the game is spamming. The core reason for spamming is by far not that people can not stack, the problem is, that spamming is so advantageous. The main reason is the build rate. If one spams, one can build up to 5 times bigger fleets or attack 5 times more often with a fleet which consist of big battleships rather than developing a sophisticated fleet.
4 420Renegade
armenia. Id be willing to bet my entire GC empires that I`ve been playing longer than you..so like I said before, stfu and go back to UC :/ Cept your not good at that either, so just go away in general :D
A armenia4ever
420renegade im saying your a newb right now, im just saying ive been playing this game for alot longer than you have. I think i might understand it better.
O Omegian
You know, I stacked most of the time, 10 equal pr stacks on RT and back as tax viral on RT, i have had yet one battle where another person was stacked at or around fedwar bonus prs, yes I was in the middle of 5-10 mil, and sometimes as terran playing from 2-10 mil pr ... IT is unfair to say that spamming is part of the game and everyone should stack. Its like your asking for 2 armies to fight at a certain time with certain amount of troops.

The part of this game is to fight the way you want to, so stack if you want, spam if you want. Its all part of the fighting game, the funny thing is the better or more stacks you actually have, the mores sucessful most of the time then the regular 3-4 stack spam with dummies that most had attacked me with.

I will admit that on some servers its hard to stack when your trying to accomplish a wipe so someone else can climb above and then hold the top pr seat for a bit, during many fights ive had to spam and i dont like it alot, but if it gets the job done, then so be it. I lose more in doing spams than being stacked.
T TheNamelesMaster
BM when i stack up to full stacks im like at maybe 15 stacks total... if i cant finish stacking before i get hit normally im less then 7 cause A.miner have slow building small ships... & the higher in power you go the longer it seems to stack those slow ships... i once build like 5 million C.Aries out of boredum in my lower 15 stacks before lol
K Kusari
I don`t think this game is anywhere near dead, but I agree it could use some work. If you want to see an example of a sucessful game, go check out battledawn sometime. Instead of waiting 3 years for a complete overhaul, the management implements minor tweaks and upgrades every few months or so. More importantly, the owner actually monitors and responds to the forums. In fact, most of the changes to the game are a direct result of player input.
Stephen`s biggest problem is that he is not willing to give his staff the ability to make adjustments and fix problems, but he is unwilling or unable to spend suffiecient time to do it himself. If He has lost interest in this game, it is understandable, but if that is the case he should hand over the reigns to someone else rather than let the game stagnate.
4 420Renegade
Uh. Yeah. Sure :/ I`m 03 mate. And your a newb. So go away. Pretty Please?
D DrunkenMasters
Well TNM, people say stacked these days about 4-5 equal stacks, I tell that half spam. Stack is 10 equal stacks for me. Compromise, at least 8. But when someone tells me "he is stacked" and I see pyth/angel/borr/pike, that is NOT a stack.
A armenia4ever
And i agree about advertising renegade. We should stick the adds back up to make a bit of money for the game. WE can then stick that money into running some adds on site about the game.


And dang do we need new forums.
A armenia4ever
"No GC player with half a brain would let you touch any piece of GC armenia ;)"

Lol, 420renegade i really doubt that. Ive been playing GC since 03 (almost a year on this account, and 2 years on a different account) my friend, a hell of alot longer than you, so show just a slight bit of respect.

Im currently taking several writing classes, as im an English / Secondary Ed Major (Communications is mixed heavily into my required classes)

Acts on GC and UC really are that different except for missions objectives. At this point i think most players would agree that a few extra mission acts wouldnt be a bad thing. Im very sure collectives wouldnt mind a few acts. Im willing to write the stuff for free. I dont want anything in return. This is simply for the helping the game.

Stephen hasnt even been on IRC in over 3 months. UC hasnt been updated for almost 5 months now. Im not sure whats happened to him. But if UC hasnt been updated in 5 months, thats bad news for GC.

This new version of GC will never come in my opinion. Stephen doesnt have enough initiative to get it done unfortunately.

OH how i miss anaboliking. Well we can always hope i suppose.
T TheNamelesMaster
DrunkenMasters... thats not the truth of it all... there were the old days were build stacked & people even wiped others out with good stacks & good guessing of the other person`s stack... it was all good back then... now in days its just G*A*Y... all i see is Jugg,Pyth,D.Angel, Borrelly, Pike...

SD is the only viral i`ve seen that still haves a scare fleet as a viral & that is stacked like crazy...

its not only the stacking thats an issue.... i found players attacking on careful a ton... its really getting old.... why not take careful attack out of the game... spamming would be more hurtful to the attacker... plus what is the point of careful except to lose less ships in battle, but this applies to more SPAM ships with less range
D DrunkenMasters
Everyone spams, that`s the truth. The people that make a stack and then are defeated by a spam should stop complaining, make a stack again and wipe it, or wait for the right time and wipe him again(7 day for a counter is a long time). Spams work sometimes, sometimes they don`t. As well as stacks. Go aggro with stack against stack, it`s almost guaranteed loss.
S SagacityUSRR
How about a "Convienant Truth"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUwVqL1xtVs
C {ching}
1.Most ppl agree the pyth needs higher upkeep for viral, but they cant do it without Stephen. If they increase the cost (as opposed to upkeep) of maru ships for viral they will need to alter it depending on the server. It works out a lot cheaper for viral on RT to build a load of pyth and then make his money back with endless turns and 24 hours dp than it would for some guy on slow server. So it`s gona take work from stephen (a miracle) either way.

2. I dont see why everyone complains so much about spamming, it`s just another strategy and has positive and negative points, give me a stack over a spam any day. Most spams only take 1-2 planets anyway so who cares.
D DrunkenMasters
Species, you are right. That`s all I can say.
R RareHunter
nah we just laughed at your because your a joke, a silly newb who should go back to uc yawn
T ThEpAkIsTaNIeMpIrE
guys where were u when i said we should advertise go to the filter and look at my post i have alot on it pple laughed at me u newbie
T ThEpAkIsTaNIeMpIrE
guys where were u when i said we should advertise go to the filter and look at my post i have alot on it pple laughed at me u newbie
T TheNamelesMaster
you forgot #4

#4... GC advertisement..... or promotion

spamming, & viral are an issue... only race that i think should have such ablity is guards but at the same time they lack range but they make up for it in modifers
H Hollyhell
Razgriz you got to thik why ppl dont appreciate the game in the first place its because its NEVER UPDATED this game has been esentualy the same game it was since the begining i play other games that stay fun because you never know whats going to happen after this round is over (for those unformiliar with the term "rounds" its when the game resets and there are updates to fix bugs, add stuff players want, ect) anyway these games are appriciated because they listen to the players. thats another thing that could happen for this game so that the ppl who get crazy strong get knocked back down w/ the rest of us back at square one every 3-4 months.
R Razgriz
i wonder y people keep posting the SAME EXACT thing over and over, people have tried on and off for years and things almost never get accomplished, its simply a waste of time and effort, you also have to think why would stephen bother updating a game for a bunch of players when 75% of em dont appreciate the game in the firt place
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