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viral upkeep is bs, fix it.

Started by Cutter · 23/08/2007 · 03:21 PM · 51 replies · 1 read
C CutterOP
yup, this is a protest thread.
Sure most have called for viral upkeep to be balanced, and nothing has been done.
That doesn`t mean we should stop raising our voices about it.

Don`t like it? Feel free to move on and don`t waste your time posting in the thread then.
C Certicom
Basically viral being the way they are is an economic decision by Stephen. Uber viral = more people subscribe to be viral. If they weren`t so uber less people might subscribe.

However at this point I think Stephen should spend some time improving the game which would likely bring in more subscribers. I would bet that if he looked at # of GC subscribers during each 3 month period for the last 2-3 years he would see it trending down. Or maybe he has decided why bother because that would just canabalize UC subscribers with no overall net change it people paying him.
T ThEpAkIsTaNIeMpIrE
species pls pls do me a favor go to uc
this is gc god dam it
paid beneifets can happen with any race ANY RACE and plus u really want it down dont ya a.minerz make money alot of it if upkeep goes down for a.miner as well it will make loads more and viral upkeep it hardly makes any money we and capture u can capture with collective they are the strongest defence in the game
S species382
Well, there is a fine line... If you dont offer paid players an advantage then nobody will spend the money. On the other side, if paied players have to big benefits, it will scare away non-payers, making this game, which has already to few players to be really fun even less attractive for unpaid players and therefore also for paid players.

Currently basically everyone with few exceptions agree, that the upkeep advantage is by far over this line. Virals have already a whole bunch of advantages like capturing, great native ships, the highest variety of available ships, the collection of the best available ships, and an incredible build rate even for balanced stacks without the disadvantages of the other paid races like no exploration or no money.

And on top of that upkeep-free high-buildrate high-dammage ships is a tiny little bit too much....

Somehow you remind me on somebody driving in the wrong highway direction: He also complains, that everybody except himself is wrong.....
T ThEpAkIsTaNIeMpIrE
Nameles thxs for the compliment lol

1 ur not PAID MEANING the race are surly going to have a disadvantage
ITS LIKE not buying the game but want to play on trial forever and make it fair for pple if ur really that concerned go maru or soemthing maru dont make much money thats why they have cheap shipz same with viral how is it fair there where u make billionz while viralz dont make crab
T TheNamelesMaster
TPE your name looks more retarted now by the way

yes viral are cheap... someone said use Lyth to kill Pyth

9,ooo Pyth only cost 6,750,000 in upkeep alright & has 200 million power
to match Pyth at 200 million power you need

6750 Lyth with an upkeep of 324,351,000 per turn...

tell me where this seems fair... i would have to spend like over 1 trillion to build a fleet like that As A.miner... while a viral would maybe spend less then 100 billion & also they`re making profit at the same time cause some viral make high incomes of over 10 million.

viral are abusing Pyth & D.Angel all the time so why not take them away from the viral anyways
T ThEpAkIsTaNIeMpIrE
lolz u not-smart cutter itz FINE cuz we increase the upkeep for maru ships where alot of pple are going to complain miner and terran upkeep is fine where as maru has a special ability for ships have low upkeep and plus VIRALS use those shipz often
F forald
uh 420Renegade, tell me why won`t an upkeep solution solve the problem if it directly addresses the problem, the problem being that upkeep is too low for virals, shouldn`t the solution logically be to raise the upkeep. the extent to which it is raised is of course in question, but definitely not the nature of the solution. without trying to sound like this is a personal attack, i think you`re the one wasting forum space. btw you make it sound like forum space is soooo precious, that people who make "worthless" deserve to die. oh please...
S species382
Indeed 420, since the upkeep is at least a factor of 10 to low, trippling of the upkeep will not change too much.....
4 420Renegade
Id totally posted what I posted in the last thread, But apparently you didn`t get it, Now this has come to basically spam. Even most of the virals agree the upkeep needs to be balanced, but nothing has been done.

ANd honestly, Even if you tripled the upkeep of Angel and Pyth they would still be spammed, virals are a rich race. Your little upkeep solution wont solve jack. Think harder, and come up with a real solution.
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