Tone Virals down

Fairness in all things guys and atm things are going haywire in this game. Research and planet count have to count for something and also time spent playing too.

If you play for 5 hours every day It would be unfair yto say that an empire who plays for 16 hours a day is overpowered

Hes worked for everything he has and desrves it.. Alter the game too much and you will ruin it.

See how many hoours you guys put in every day. I play on averagte 14 to 18 hours a day here.

As an example they can the guys stateing that virals are overpowered state hoew many hours they play every day ?

Position in the game depends on many factors. research plannets time spent playing and player skill level.

Player skill levels cannot be Hsandicapped like this its silly and will be responsible for ruining the game for all.

If anything minners income should be tonned down Minners advsantage was they aleways had lots of cash. Now they have lots of cash and better heavy ships than marauder

Do you guys really know what your suggestin here. Do we really want another UCRT which is a poor excuse for a war game. Balancing yes but not to favour one race.
I am still dissapointed with the range reduction on the only viral ship. WHile it does make the game more interesting it means now that virals loose if bors hit queens

Thats silly how can the viral flagship now be taken out by queens which every race has.

If the guys doing these mods are not carefull we will have another game where certain races are nerfed by guys from other races. Come on now guys we can all play any race we like here. Already this is not the game i signed up for in the first instance

Normally the changes affect any given race quite drastically. In one instance whilst playing UCRT many years ago the changes ruined the race I was playing which was collective.

In fact the changes made collective unplayable, income was only 1/10 of gaurd income with max research. I left the game in disgust. Not only that the ships were nerfed too. Poor old collective in UCRT was to be no more.

All I say to everyone here is we can choose which ever race we like. Bashing one race just because you l0oose to them a lot is unfair.

Some of these guays are experienced players and desserve theier position at the top. This should not be taken away from them

research should be important too if a new minner empire can have better income and ships than a mature viral empire with max research and lots of planets, I WOULD SAY THAT THIS IS VERY UNFAIR

VIrals need max research and lots of big cols to make anywhere near what the minners make. Therefore we need some cheap ships or Viral will dissapear form the server and you wil

Rather tyhan say viralds are overpowered take a look at the guys in question.

They probably have max

naw i was the biggest protestor of miner being overpowered no such thing tho it did advertise miner race its now very popular ...and meh angel pwns lyth :/

dangel 1 fir one dont satand a chance against minner lyth at present and they are similart ships the lyth now is more liike a herc with longer range.

Increasing viral upkeep on marauder ships is going to far atm. The reason I say this is that we cannot afford to spam costly ships like the lyth and herc. So consequently will not be able to compete in the game against rich minners with better ships.

viral domminence. ??? I dont see that virals are dominant

Long term players with max infra can be dominant no matter what race atm


Why the Kick viral attitude we have already lost range on the two viral ships.

Fairness in all things i would say for all and not stabbing at one race.

Who will challenge miners now if virals are nerfed ???????

Do i have to yawn this out all over again ? Yeah, fix the maru BS upkeep and the update the RE list already. Good point there from sk8land -- What`s the point of going up so high up in power with cheap spams ? Personally, i rather sit at lower PR`s stacking with the chance of battling against stackers.. and not spammers. In RT, it`s not about the skills, BUT the time you consume on managing your empire. Thus, this is why no-brainers with no skills can build up a decent empire on RT (newbs you don`t wanna talk about). And chess, you should know better we VM players have issues to run in RL and some other factors relating to the game itself, you can`t blame the rest of the feds for the that. Every player has the ability to go up and knock your empires down, given the proper stack and time. Can`t believe i had to pop in and shoot in the forums...

Here`s my suggestion : LOWER the max power cap - easy as that

*Continues his revision*

I wasnt trying to point out that some of those players are in CC. They are, that is true, but CC is a fed that has had rich virals in it (Im friendly with them, actually). More importantly I just posted that to show what the top 11 looked like. Surprise surprise, its completely dominated by one race.

well if youd like i can always go up there and beat you down chess :) Stacking against a viral isnt hard at all :p just get all my money back and ud all be dead hiding in dp.

You said noone can standup to cc but what a deceiving lie your putting up. As i can remember HoA beat your @s down. and shortly after disptep was keeping you down for a short time also.

yeah I`m gonna have to pull a warp here and say ... basically nothing, since my double-o interpreter isn`t on right now to help me understand that... 21Sept-Malaysia w/e fed has 6 active players, who still don`t hardly do anything themselves. Dist has half of its members in VM the whole time. BC has NOBODY IN IT. WW3 and the ripoff Tempest both have nobody. MK is all inactive/VMed. Notice that you always turn the hundreds of threads about viral upkeep into discussions of something entirely unrelated...

thats a nice point

chess cant stand agaisnt cronic thats funny i thought marines wree strong enough if they wree not allies and there is distemper which can bastrad clan does cc has tooo much power
but its not like if 6 feds strong fed go agaisnt it and it will stop dominatin +

DMM that was pointless to post, we know that nobody can stand up to CC up here... To the rest: All races have lame people that spam, and always, anyone with half a brain can pwn them easily. If nothing else, just build your queens to beat the "n00b virals" and "great stacking miners", because that`s what ALL the ships you`re whining about are weak to. If you know so well that they`re spamming those big ships, it`s not that hard to spam them back with strafez, even taking into account the build rate difference. Sure, queens die easy. Sure, spamming back makes you the same as them. Whining about it in public makes you look bad, and lowers everyone`s opinion of you.

deadly that is soooo true lol i attacked him lol

HoneyBucket{HH} Viral 78 420,420,420
2 420BadWolf Viral 474 255,969,461
3 ShAd0wS Viral 128 245,051,679
4 Optimus Viral 46 202,749,453
5 thekillaknight Viral 71 182,420,420
6 streetrac Terran 73 166,666,666
7 ShatterdDreams Viral 422 115,000,000
8 Blazed Viral 75 103,105,723
9 InfiniteJustice Viral 360 62,745,797
10 Permy Viral 68 62,544,518
11 420Renegade Viral 150 57,539,820

Spiker is a herc nirv etc spammer... borry spam can beat it just fine.

Nothing will be done about virals being dominant. They are the main source of income currently.


Almost all virals spam like crazy. Learn how to counter them and youll be set. But viral still are way too good.

lol reizo, you`re setting a bad example for TPE... now he`s gonna paste all his battle logs with you. @@ ohnoes

23/08/07
12:48 PM Reizo
2,429,859 ThEpAkIsTaNIeMpIrE
383,039 Win
23/08/07
12:36 PM Reizo
1,004,364 ThEpAkIsTaNIeMpIrE
126,025 Win
23/08/07
09:31 AM ThEpAkIsTaNIeMpIrE
929,109 Reizo
1,080,593 Lost
23/08/07
09:23 AM Reizo
1,421,465 ThEpAkIsTaNIeMpIrE
91,126 Win
23/08/07
09:13 AM ThEpAkIsTaNIeMpIrE
564,290 Reizo
678,917 Win
23/08/07
09:08 AM ThEpAkIsTaNIeMpIrE
881,743 Reizo
679,165 Win
22/08/07
03:39 PM ThEpAkIsTaNIeMpIrE
312,060 Reizo
289,728 Lost

well, dun action, dude, sometimes we win, sometimes we lose....so, dun action...i counter ppl ppl from like 10 times pr..i lose, shame...but, wat to do, maybe luck play a role (of coz, ur skill of stacking and counter as well)

not always and most of the time its cuz of my base pr u not-smart so dont think ur that good and did u notice in my winz that they are low pr and my bas is 100k ur a dumbazz i stack good thats the reason

i wouldn`t be bragging anyway TPE i own you every time i attack you