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Virals and Pyth/Angel

Started by DeadlyMilkMan · 11/06/2007 · 11:07 AM · 42 replies · 1 read
D DeadlyMilkManOP
So the high power virals use a lot of angel and pyth. Basically they are marauders who have AIDS. I think that stephen should make it so that when virals have he pyth and angel, they have an upkeep that is around the same as a nirvana dreadnaught. Marauders need the low upkeep to go high... virals dont and its just being abused.

Unfortunately, stephen doesnt do anything, and this will never happen.

/rant
D DeadlyMilkManOP
Hellus and Balzac both miss the point that several of the larger virals below have agreed with.
B Balzac
so , this means that Stephen must be doing some money , as paid accounts are in the top , that means that who pays gets some beneffits ...
H Hellus
yeah don`t forget that virals need big planet counts because we can`t use u class. Even with 64 planets some virals may only have a little more then 50 k land. A terran can have that in five u larges :P
D DeadlyMilkManOP
But wait, just to make a sharper point to those who are too lazy to read the paragraph, I checked out the top 50 Planet Holders of GCRT. There are:

27 Virals
11 Terrans
8 Miners
2 Guardians
1 Collective
1 Marauder (god bless him)

Yep, thats right, more virals than all the other races combined. Not only that, the top 7 biggest planet holders are (you guessed it) viral, except for one terran whose account has been frozen for months. Sweet!
C CaptainWhoopAsh
woah, im not even gunna read that

*Whoops people*
D DeadlyMilkManOP
I dont want anyone to get the idea, especially the virals who have responded. I think you virals use marauder ships so much that you essentially abuse the ship that was created for a poorer race. Marauders only really have Angels and Pyth to use way up high, which is why their upkeep is low and they are pretty good ships overall. Since virals rev them though, they are simply used all the time. Virals like to make borelly pyth angel spams because they are not only cheap but pretty powerful to the other races. As a nice add on, the virals also have hercules and chiron at their disposal. This effectively destroys the marauder`s ability in the high power ranges. The only two ships we have, the virals also have exactly the same. Not only do the virals have our two high ships, they can also switch in their borelly, herc or chiron. Marauders NEED these two ships to go anywhere up high in power, Virals clearly do not and its become ridiculous. SpartanDream himself said he spent only 30 bil cred on going to 700 mil power by using angel and pyth spam. This is shameless as it destroys the old marauder reputation and lowers it to a mere bottom feeder. The solution? Either modify the upkeep on these ships to be similar to the M. Lyth when used by virals, or make them impossible to reverse engineer. Virals can deal with, im sure, having Pikes Tigers and Hammerheads. Being a marauder for a very long time (longer than my empire age suggests) I can tell you that since the introduction of viral, and more recently, our race is becoming scarce or weak. Its not all that hard to beat my butt up at 10 million power, and i think thats probably why a lot of virals sit pretty up there not hitting eachother, but when I rise I get whacked :(

As much as I love maru, the only way I can fight up high is by going viral. After all if I change to viral, ill still have my two favorite maru ships just the same :)
S SexyCandymen
totaly i have this N00b who i wipe regulary at even power =P all he does is retals me from 100 mil with angel pyth spam
F fleak2
Hmm i was thinking that maybe we should have a ship list for infected ships
so in this way, viral`s shiplist should be more than 3 ships it should be 3 + terrans + a.miners - g.class + marauders but these ships will be VERY different in upkeep and building costs and probably SOME stats. but that is to be considered
F fleak2
Hmm i was thinking that maybe we should have a ship list for infected ships
so in this way, viral`s shiplist should be more than 3 ships it should be 3 + terrans + a.miners - g.class + marauders but these ships will be VERY different in upkeep and building costs and probably SOME stats. but that is to be considered
E EnderWiggin
Well, ship upkeep has to stay low for marauders or else we`d never see them at even moderately high pr. terran, miner and viral (if possible should be similar to terran upkeep levels) should keep their high upkeep though

oh, and get lost whoopash. no one appreciats it when you just post not-smart comments on a serious post. didn`t like it when you did it as Bren either....
M mompyuser
hmm basickly i agree dmm.... id like to see ship upkeep become all same for all races lol.... so then there will be no spammin anymore.... nowevery1 spams up an cheap ship toget high pr.... mostly virals tho but maru do to sometimes
F fleak2
what the !? how rude!
A Andriatia
Even if D class became uncapturable, would there be a RE ship list reset?
Like Global said, this is old hash with no clear solution, or at least one without any forseeable future changes.
G GCLOanShArK
DMM, I 300% agree... infact should review Chiron`s upkeep also..
There are many chiron up oin dp cause many cant even counter, including me..
Ask BWolf, which is always did that... This make low power empire to the dead end.
E EvilAbadayos
nothing will ever happen with this.

it was being considered when the ship updates were being done 3-4 months back or however long it was. they seem to of been neglected.

ah well such is life. may as well just keep on keeping on
M Maraudian
D class become uncapturable is the cure

make em D class for D maru like G class is Guardian ^_^

and no mara cant do very much , only stephen could fiddle with viral , and i dunno if its even possible to fiddle with virals upkeep on ships without affecting it for the other race :/
G Global}{Galactica
DMM this isn`t new at all... We all know abt it. But y shouldn`t we use it if it is there... But I agree wit u.
B BoomZilla
meh, its not that Stephen Won`t do any thing to fix this long lamented problem..
he Can`t fix it.. no leet skillz ;PP
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