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Aminer Shiplist Suggestions

Started by Maraudian · 07/06/2007 · 11:22 PM · 118 replies · 3 reads
M MaraudianOP
Ship: M.Epidote
Currently: Shielding is Foul
Suggestion: increase Energy Shield +25% Becoming +20%

Ship: M.Lyth
Currently: Reasonable
Suggestion: Increase Range +1
4k pr drop max ( please feel free to reason on this below )
Defense Modifier
Energy Shield + 45 % increase 10%
Absorption Shield - 25 % Increase 10%
ECM + 45 % Increase 10%
Ionized Hull - 35 %

Ship: M.Chlorite
Currently: die without doing much alot of the time
Suggestion: Removal of No defence

Ship: M.Chlor
Currently: useless even as a singular dummy :-/
Suggestions: ECM and Ionized Hull Shield Increase 25% Becoming +10% on both
Deiloche / DrunkenMaster`s Suggestion: Include more damage ( 200 / 300 )

Ship: M.Calcite
Currently: Similar to Chloright just more unapealing
Suggestion: 1.Removal of No defense
2.Kinetic Shield Increase 15% Becoming -15%

A.Aragonite
Currently: Dies Easily
Suggestion: Increase Kinetic Shielding +35% Becoming -30%
Hiig`s & Deiloche`s Suggestion: Increase Build rate to 40k per turn ( 8 units )

Edited by Maraudian on 2007-06-13
S Sync0pe
The lyth sounds VERY good, did you guys tried UW ( a power one ) and getting Angel spamed and make you lost at the end of the 17h? I do. Very annoying, Miner got nothing big to jump high and counter ruby, lyth would be nice....

Arago need changes as well:)
D DaniCalifornia
Lyth is fine.. dont touch it.. and Mara.. when is the RE-ships reset coming? im tired waiting
T Travvivian
The Shielding ideas do not seem half bad. But drop the thought on losing the No Defense.
D DrunkenMasters
Good for miner standarts anyway XD, if ara is that bad, what should we say about empereur!
D DrunkenMasters
I mean aragonite is good in a stack, only one major weakness isn`t that bad anyway.
U UberPansy
The changes look pretty interesting, though I don`t think the No Defense will help anything at all, not to mention that it would make those 2 ships quite unique among missile boats. I`m afraid I don`t know of any way to balance the missile boats without making them into a Tiger... much as I hate to say it, it seems miner ships are weak for a reason...?

I`m fairly surprised at DM`s assertion that the Aragonite is good as is...!?!?!
It is no match for the main cap ships: nirvana, pyth, and herc. On defense it should be able to handle tyr and D. Angel so that`s good at least. I would definitely agree with a bolstered Absorption Shield.

In keeping with the a. miner defensive role I would be unsure whether the Epidote should be strengthened... it has less hull than a garuda (why isn`t Garuda an a.miner ship =P) but better shields, and those 2 ships should be distinct.
Also upping Lyth range could be dangerous as it would make the a.miners` role as a defensive race questionable... perhaps harden it up (boost hull, shields, weapons, etc lol) to make up for this range weakness?
S SexyCandymen
not tyr nirvana nirvana beats lyth on defense=)
D DrunkenMasters
Since when tyr is good for defence against nirv o.o ?130% nirv beats tyr on both normal and careful and I guess no one is that dumb to spam nirvs on aggressive. Either give lyth reasonable damage increase or range 7.
S SpArTanDReaM
Sounds good. However, this is like 1 of 4 sugestion thing`s you posted in the last few months. Let`s do more dewey and less talkie. Your ideas are good you have got enough feed back now do like the old Nike slogan says and "Just do it".
E EnderWiggin
the A.miner ships do need some improvements but not too much. The shield upgrades would be a good improvement, but their firepower should stay fairly low. With A.miner it`s so easy to make money that too many people would go A. miner if their ships got too much of a boost.
S SexyCandymen
becouse tyr is made to kill lyth on offense and nirvana on deffense O.o iv played miner dm ...nothing miner has is overpowered but they are defensive race O.o aragonite the only ship that needs some tunning really ...there far more unbalanced races then miner


just like maru sad m.lyth currently reasonable just like it should be
M MaraudianOP
no defence on the ships in question would make it like a T garu or P thor spam

i dont think anyone would spam them to be honest :/
D DrunkenMasters
And why is it newbish? I don`t think making miner playable is newbish and Santa, try miner if you think that their ships are so overpowered. I said no need to get rid of the no defense, will make miners spam more not stack more.
S SexyCandymen
bah!? what the... lyth range 7 O.o thats newbish there shouldnt be range updates O.o and if no defense going to get removed they should get damage nerf O.o
D DrunkenMasters
Tyr and D.Angel both have range of 7 so it is fair enough lyth to have range 7 as well.
D DrunkenMasters
if lyth has range of 7 I don`t think many marus/virals will spam pyth on miners XD
D DrunkenMasters
1) if you want chlorite to do a lot all the time just make it 10 range
2) M.Lyth MUST have range of 7 like all capitol missile ships, maybe slim increase in the missile damage as well(+3-5k?)
3)Chlor is big fodder atm, just give it more damage, needs a lot more than now(at least double)
4)Calcite`s suggestions are interesting, will be interesting to see that in action
5)Aragonite is good as it is.

If you get rid of calcite and chlorite`s no defense miner will get too many spamming ships imo, that`s only my humble opinion.
S SweetestDownfall
I like em..make em less susceptible against pyth, angel spam..and they`ll be great.
but why increase M.Lyth range?
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