I was Robbed.

OP 15/04/2007 · 11:36 AM #1

i was robbed.
Battle SIM
PR losses
Attacker 580457 = 61.9%
Defender 587675 = 86.8% DP

*** Victory! ***
Colonies: 2

Attacker`s fleet
Name Units Casualties Remaining
H.Galleon Destroyer 72 13 59
R.Pinnace Corvette 800 800 0
Strafez Queen 140 140 0
H.Brigantine Frigate 600 316 284
Large Strafez Runner 260 27 233
Small Strafez Runner 960 960 0
H.Barkentine Cruiser 32 18 14
F.Sword Destroyer 40 9 31
R.Sloop Frigate 80 80 0
Defender`s fleet
Name Units Casualties Remaining
Strafez Queen 95 95 0
P.Thor Destroyer 50 50 0
T.Garuda Destroyer 79 61 18
C.Taurus Destroyer 50 50 0
P.Zeus Cruiser 40 40 0
F.Sword Destroyer 60 37 23
Tyr Dreadnought 5 5 0
Large Strafez Runner 130 130 0
Nirvana Dreadnought 3 3 0
Hercules Juggernaught 1 0 1

ACTUAL Battle
You attacked XXXX. Attack has failed !

Name Units Casualties Remaining
johnpotsmoker`s fleet
H.Galleon Destroyer 72 13 59
R.Pinnace Corvette 800 800 0
Strafez Queen 140 140 0
H.Brigantine Frigate 600 316 284
Large Strafez Runner 260 27 233
Small Strafez Runner 960 960 0
H.Barkentine Cruiser 32 12 20
F.Sword Destroyer 40 27 13
R.Sloop Frigate 80 80 0

XXXX`s fleet
Strafez Queen 95 95 0
P.Thor Destroyer 50 50 0
T.Garuda Destroyer 79 61 18
C.Taurus Destroyer 50 50 0
P.Zeus Cruiser 40 40 0
F.Sword Destroyer 60 30 30
Tyr Dreadnought 5 5 0
Large Strafez Runner 130 130 0
Nirvana Dreadnought 3 3 0
Hercules Juggernaught 1 0 1

Only a small difference between battle sim and the actual battle. Someone want to explain?

C Crazyhorse

16/04/2007 · 04:50 AM #14

That was when he attacked ME. I sent him a message saying the same thing. So much damage done, its amazing to me that I didnt lose at least 1 colony. But reading here, I guess the explanation is that my fleet did substantial damage to his?

Anyway, I was glad I won, but actually agreed with johnpotsmoker.

In retrospect, guess my stack for defense wasnt that great anyway, more of an offensive stack instead of defensive. I just hate to build to attack, then dismantle for defense.

T TheShadow

16/04/2007 · 04:37 AM #13

yep you should have used a dummy for the 10th stack then you would have won just like the simulation said.

T TheShadow

16/04/2007 · 04:35 AM #12

PR losses
Attacker 574805 = 61.3%
Defender 575739 = 85.1% DP

This is the simulation ( had to go throught it a few times to get that result :/) The problem thought is the random element the herc. depending on what the herc hit determined if you lose or win. The chances of you wining were slimmer than losing. ( as suggest by the simulation)

D Deiloche

16/04/2007 · 04:14 AM #11

Very simple. In the SIM, you won by a narrow margin of 7.2k PR. If the defender destroys more of your ships that you destroy of theirs (and they are not wiped out) you lose the battle. In the simulation, the random element had a slightly different alignment of ship attacks. In the REAL one, you lost 6 less barks (3.5k * 6, -21k PR) and you lost 18 more f.sword (roughly 20k) So your losses were 1k less... but he also lost 7 less sword, which is 8k PR... this 7k PR difference is why you lost the battle. If I did the actual math (instead of guesstimations in my head), I`m confident that it would result in you losing more PR, which is an automatic failure if you do not wipe the enemy.

Look at the numbers, mate... look at the numbers. They don`t lie... well, in this game they do, but this isn`t a stephen math error, like one would normally expect.

M Maraudian

16/04/2007 · 03:05 AM #10

* sighs more than Q

Q quaint

15/04/2007 · 09:27 PM #9

*sigh*

E Eternus

15/04/2007 · 09:09 PM #8

Battle Sim can lead to huge inaccuracies by even the smallest things we`ve had occassion to sim various things and then match them up to actual battles and the differences can be huge

M Moops

15/04/2007 · 07:49 PM #7

the battle sim also assumes they havent been hit, if someone already failed on them that could affect the outcome of your battle

F Firezen

15/04/2007 · 07:06 PM #6

how come you threw your strafrez queens right at the enemy`s t.garudas... should`ve swapped pinnance and strafrez queens, so the strafrez wiped the thors and pinnance at least having some kind of chance of surviving against the garuda.

T TheShadow

15/04/2007 · 01:15 PM #5

maybe it has something to do with the extra swords destroyed but thats just a guess.

S SagacityUSRR

15/04/2007 · 01:06 PM #4

never trust a battle sim , its never exactly the same

S SweetestDownfall

15/04/2007 · 12:39 PM #3

youre just unlucky

A AGM94

15/04/2007 · 12:37 PM #2

Rerun it a few times in the sim and you should get the correct result. obviously make sure you are checking with the right stance

The reason for the problem is the random element on the 2nd wave if stacks have been wiped in wave 1

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