guard update idea...

OP 14/03/2007 · 12:33 AM #1

well, everyone is complaining about the guardian income, and their spammy spammyness...so i`ve come up with a solution.

lets leave the guard tax modifier alone, but increase the worth of the CG to the guardian population...make CG`s produce more credits per pop, this would probably increase the ammount needed, which would be fine, since CG miners would be popping up everywhere to kep up with this new demand of CG`s...so it serves two purposes. gives CG`s to the server, and increases the guardian income, hopefully helping a few of them stack and stop complaining...

ideas ans suggestions are appreciated.

P.S. i say to leave the taxe modifier alone because if guard got a positive tax modifier, we`d have to start consuming food...which gets out of hand with what the race is supposed to be, guards are supposed to collect CG`s, so it only makes sense that they should consume them faster and get more out of them then all but terrans right? :\ just a brain storm while i`m sitting in my math class with a fried brain... :D

D Demandred

14/03/2007 · 01:31 AM #11

well if you dont make L class better ill kill you all...so i say you goddman not-smarts make the friggin L class better you tards.

D Deiloche

14/03/2007 · 01:23 AM #10

My proposed shiplist update did just that, species... among other things. Maraudian probably didn`t even look at my shiplist... *Shrugs* Mine had a lot of bugs to work out, but it was still better than the current list.

And I apologize, BadSicilian... I didn`t mean to insult you. I`m just tired of people suggested economic changes to fix a military problem, and I was in a bad mood already. That is like suggesting making a single zergling equal to a single zealot on starcraft by doubling how fast drones mine... it just doesn`t make any sense.

S species382

14/03/2007 · 01:21 AM #9

I actually like Deiloches idea, just increase the upkeep of tourm and Ruby that it hurts spamming them. Then older empires actually grow in military strength.....

S species382

14/03/2007 · 01:19 AM #8

only a significant nerfing or ruby and tourm would make spamming not the by far best tactic for guards, and therefore motivate actual stacking.

D Deiloche

14/03/2007 · 01:17 AM #7

On a side note... a BETTER suggestion would have been creating an "alternate" neutral shiplist, where the upkeep on neutral ships drops to a tolerable level for guardians. Now THAT would have been a good idea. Giving the guards more income won`t change the fact that they will STILL spam the ships that are inexpensive on both cash and turns.

D Deiloche

14/03/2007 · 01:15 AM #6

Ermmm... the ship modding was a good idea. The modding itself just didn`t work. :P You don`t effect the military by changing the economy. The ONLY economic change that has an effect on the military is a change to the base PR, so forcing an empire to go tax rather than anything else. That WILL change the military, if only slightly. Changing a race to make it more desirable to stack rather than spam MUST occur at the ship level. Your solution is absolutely worthless, because it doesn`t even address the issue that is the problem. That IS why people have complained about virals all along... sure, it cost them more to pay for their reverse engineered ships, but that did NOT change how those said ships performed in battle.

Especially with guard. MAYBE forcing a higher upkeep on ships that are spammed might help... a bit. But nothing else would, because changing the guardian upkeep would only allow for more spamming. Now that I`ve fully explained the difference between "economics" and "military" to you, can you see why your suggestion is absolutely worthless?

B BadSicilianOP

14/03/2007 · 01:05 AM #5

yeah, nice one man, really mature. i`ve only tried to give a better solution then the not-smart ship remodding, its getting uselessly rediculous, the guardian ships were nice befor ethe update, now they`ve taken 2k kinetic weapons from the k hun li...and given it +5 to ECM shielding...yeah, thats really useful. made the ship even worse.

now if i`m wrong for trying to actually help, in giving a better solution theb what is already being given, then you`ve failed to see the point.

moron.

D Deiloche

14/03/2007 · 01:02 AM #4

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It also means even MORE money for spammers. You failed to see the point, moron.

B BadSicilianOP

14/03/2007 · 12:59 AM #3

well, it would encourage stacking more, since guards eat through money when they stack...stacking with guard requires the use of swords (the guardian solution to tyr...), and that eats you up after a while. so more money means more stackers. duh.

D Deiloche

14/03/2007 · 12:57 AM #2

How would this help spam, exactly?

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