Still wanting more feedback

i say dont change guard ships make em spammers..

Augustini, thats a great argument FOR changing em ;-). If G and L are stengthend, then ruby and tourm must suffer.

i don`t too much care what you do to guards as long as we continue to no tuse food, and ruby/tourm/li stay the same as they are, they still get killed offf immensely easily whne hittin ghte wrong ships, and any smart anti-guard stacker can own us very easily, just gotta kno wwhat your doing. and really with the new g and l class changes, they`d likely still remain useless. guard doesn`t need all that much change done really :\

Don`t change ruby and tourmaline at all, they are only strong when used in a spam, used in stacking makes them less usefull !!

ruby/tourm -> decrease hull and damage, increase range + decent L class = stacking guards. And give guards a bit more financial power, at least maybe a way to increase loyalty.

Darck, Im not entirely sure, but I think that on offense they will still cause to little damage compared to pr, but I could be wrong. And I still dont think that guard ships will be to hard to kill. Sure the mods have changed for the better, but...well, I guess we have to wait and see. I just think that the old rub/tourm spam is still the most effective on offense.

All of the changes will be made when i`m satisfied the majority of people agree to them, i`ll then take a day off other stuff if possible and go through and make all the minor tweaks and updates at once

when would the d class changes be made?

I think guard dont need much upgrade just upkeep reduced and the turns reduced on research for.

on a serious note, yes guard ships are very powerful when attacking but in balance they suck with defence sos there is a balance of sorts. If you want to tweak the ships then why not make the mainstays of guards ruby tourm li,xe a tiny bit weaker and add an extra ship or two to add to the stack systems sos there is more variety in guards

err add those 6 to the 3 they already got tourm ruby hun li

Africa you sure about that? now instead of carefull atack guards will own on normal atack with at least 6 decent ships that are hard to kill

Dark, the mods are still crab and remember that on offense most of these ships are still sucky.

Marudian, maybe we should try to implement some minor changes for the guards. I imagine that the reasons to change the guard ships is to have less spammin and more stackin. Only time will tell if the changes will be enough to make this happen.

I do think, however, that we are not close to makin the guardian ships to powerful. They were really bad earlier and the changes that we have discussed so far wont overpower the race, at least imo.

Thx again for the work youre doin atm.

i just wanna point out that the guards ships are getting way too strong, ships with more than 1.5 hull/PR and very low negative mods are hard to kill even in aggressive, some of the g class looks insane add those and tourm rubys guards are gonna be dominating everything

maru..... lol

since when did you start listening to anything anyones ever said to you?

I think we of the guardian race are in agreement that we will leave it in your hands now you love this race as much as anyone here so have at it and make us proud,it was easy to see how excited you were by your words about the upgrade