Miner updates, responses?

50k PR a turn is nothing to other A miner ships

DarckKnight, at 130% pr lakkos get killed on aggressive by Tyrs, Nirvs, Hercs, Pyth,.... and may more. The list of ships, which does not kill Lakko is shorter than the list of ships, which kill em.

ok man. 1st of all LIctor are fine. Ya whatever no - mods But the pathetic range pays off.
2nd take a look around and tell me how many people actually use the hoko enough for a good complaint.
The only miner ship i left i want to see improved is the Epidote . the shields hull and stuff are terrible.

dude, stop with the freaking lictor mods dropping...they are fine!! sheesh, they still get pwnt by everything that pwnt them before, just not as badly. you match them up with said ships and they still loose. end of story. now get over it.

lakkos range is still too high <---- only thor rubys tourms pinnaces brigantines can take that down on agressive, don't know what kind of update you guys are doing but that surely isn't balancing the game

lictor needs mods droped
chlorite needs range 10
lyth range 7?

Oops sorry for the confusion: I think maybe I meant all that about the Lakko... I didn`t even realize the Hoko got bumped up to o.O

They seem awful similar though lol o.O

The starbases are now ok. All the range does not help starbases since they dont have a no-retail. Paired with the low damage, they can be easily be beaten on carefull on the same pr level, and concerning uw-like stacks, if starbases are attacked aggressively , they still suffer lots of dammage due to the first (and last) retailliation, even if they have the first shot. (of course as long as the attacker in not so funny attacking with an No defense ship....).

And well, the lictor....
It is true, that it somehow shouldnt have 50% shields everywhere, just increase the hull by 100%, that do the same. But still the ship is far from beeing great, since it still is not immune to some attack forms, which could block some much higher-pr stacks nor do they do any reasonable dammage. If miners could trade it against a herc, they would be happy.....

During the trial-dms i dint encounter any killer-applications... just the opposite, even with the update, playing miner is still a though job, much tougher than "hard race" viral ;-).

Marudian huh!? The Hoko as a very very very very good build rate @ 50k pr per turn at least if I`m not mistaken. Precious few ships build much faster than that.

I like the Lakko because I`m an a.miner heh but I spose they would be a pain to attack during a UW attempt... boo hoo hoo lol So what? They are good otherwise - miners need something to outrange all the long range crab that gets thrown at them, so the Lakko is nigh perfect for this.

K hope so, but some people have alot of time on their hands lol.

i think lictore should be 30% + weak to one dmg type , i did say that before it was added :-(

i like the whole starbase thing that was added , really makes A miner strong in defence even though they still get slapped :p

and when viral shiplists are reset and G class are only for A miner i think they will be alot more liked

ide also like to point out that the 2 smal lstarbase have low build rate to other ships and it doesnt have a great affect on an UW attempt , this will be proven the next time one is tried

Edited by Maraudian on 2007-02-23

Hrmm, the sb range is too high i believe, they will be hard to kill in an uw attempt. People attacking from low pr won`t have many weapons to chose from against them, lol. Thor and thats about it.

Lictor is a bit weird... all positive shields? And yet the guardians themselves can`t figure it out, have to steal some kz ships ^^

sbs are fine with me, I have absolutely no trouble dealing with them at all. No problems at all ^^

But I think their range is a bit high, they beat P. class hitting them from aggressive, which just shouldn`t be the case.

Lictor are too strong( get rid of the UC mods !), but to n honest not alot of hokko;s showing up in RT

But i can;t wait to get my hands on Chlorite, and Chlor just looks beautiful now =)

its fine, like parasite said sb are meant to be strong

arh true miner sb`s are strong....but...pyth still good vs them:)

updates 2 me, r 50/50 gd and bad