L Class For Guardian

M MaraudianOP

OP 22/02/2007 · 06:48 AM #1

Same as before suggest away , no enflame arguing ect , then we will work it all out

Suggested PR`s

L garnet @ 35k pr
L Emerald @ 65k PR
L topaz @ 70k pr

L.Garnet

Scanner rating -600

Ship Attributes
Defense Modifier
Energy Shield - 20 %
Absorption Shield - 10 %
ECM + 50 %
Ionized Hull - 10 %

upkeep - 483

L. Emerald

Scanner rating - 1200

Ship Attributes
Defense Modifier
Energy Shield - 20 %
Absorption Shield - 10 %
ECM + 55 %
Ionized Hull - 20 %

upkeep - 453

L.Topaz

Missile Dmg + 2,000
Scanner rating -1000

Ship Attributes
Defense Modifier
Energy Shield - 20 %

Absorption Shield - 10 %
ECM + 60 %
Ionized Hull -30 %

upkeep - 425

Edited by Maraudian on 2007-03-01

J jakomaekel

31/08/2007 · 08:28 AM #67

nice to game

D Deiloche

28/02/2007 · 06:30 AM #66

The garnet still blows... the emerald still blows... the topaz doesn`t look too bad, though. Drop the PR on the garnet to 35k and raise the damage on the emerald to 30k and they will start looking more respectable. But as it stands, the garnet barely manages a 1 Hull/PR ratio with a laughable offensive rating and the emerald just outright sucks. :P

S Seifer

27/02/2007 · 08:47 AM #65

garnet at 40k is laughable . only reduced pr by 2k . i support 35k garnet ^^

A Archaeoptyrex

27/02/2007 · 03:16 AM #64

Oh then, I think most are happy with
35-40k
55-65k
60-70k

I would go to the left end of that scale, others to the other end. But these are reasonable changes and won`t overpower =)

Something in the middle is probably ideal! =)

M MaraudianOP

27/02/2007 · 02:18 AM #63

oh no , no decreased from what it already is , just decreased from my suggested range

A Archaeoptyrex

27/02/2007 · 12:26 AM #62

Garnet range decreased?? Why! ??

A Augustini

26/02/2007 · 09:48 PM #61

Still way too much PR goes to the scanner ratings.... it needs to be reduced further for any real impact imo.

H Hiigarans

26/02/2007 · 08:38 PM #60

i no longer have problem with the new L class now. maybe i will read this thread if any suggestion come in :)

M MaraudianOP

26/02/2007 · 07:24 PM #59

ok so we have a little bit of a mix , some say lower , some so be carefull

yet the main ship bouncing up and down is the topaz, the rest seem fine

so maybe a little more something to make up for topaz being the strongest ...?

D Deiloche

25/02/2007 · 03:18 AM #58

I like a range 10 in every race only because it`s silly to drop the borrelly range to 8. But if the borrelly HAS to remain range 8... then it`s pointless for a guardian to have a range 10.

G Gronoria

24/02/2007 · 10:47 PM #57

don`t think lowering pr even more is a good idea, the L class will be very usable anyway. Don`t forget that Guardians are supposed to be HARD to play -_-

This is enough imo:
L garnet @ 35k pr
L Emerald @ 65k PR
L topaz @ 70k pr

A AGM94

24/02/2007 · 10:32 PM #56

dont know who to work out fair mineral increase :P

H Hiigarans

24/02/2007 · 09:52 PM #55

AGM> nah, Topaz range just stay as 8. dont change it :)

well, prehaps ur pr suggestion is better. L class already got no retal ability. i have no comment on other.

dont forget to minor increase the mineral cost as L class is become better now OR maybe just keep it :) but i guess G class must minor increase the mineral cost :D

A Archaeoptyrex

24/02/2007 · 07:19 PM #54

those look usable =)

A AGM94

24/02/2007 · 07:16 PM #53

topaz at 63k pr(africas suggestion)
range stayed 8(looking at ship class maybe it should be lower or changed to a destroyer with range 9)
scanner 6k
attack/pr = 0.28
hull/pr = 1.41

Emerald(54032 pr)
range 9
scanner 6500
attack/pr 0.37
hull/pr 1.11

A AGM94

24/02/2007 · 07:06 PM #52

agree garnet should stay at 35k will have a look at the others now

A Archaeoptyrex

24/02/2007 · 07:03 PM #51

I was relatively happy with those pr`s Maraudian (35, 65, 70), since there is a risk of overpowering guards which is perhaps the worst thing that could happen because of the build rate.
garnet 35k is fine -- any lower and you gotta start dropping the hull
sure emmy and topaz can be dropped further, since they were so bad.

M MaraudianOP

24/02/2007 · 06:59 PM #50

so everyone seriously wants the pr dropping more below

L garnet @ 35k pr
L Emerald @ 65k PR
L topaz @ 70k pr

sorry but 2 replies over night , its almost like nobody cares -_-

A AGM94

24/02/2007 · 05:34 PM #49

i think the guard capital ships with multiple attacks count as k class

A Africa

24/02/2007 · 10:21 AM #48

I like the way things are goin, but I still think the pr are to high

Emmy ~ 55 k
garnet ~ 30 k
topaz ~ 63 k

They have become much better, no doubt, but they were also unbelievable bad before.

And I not against multi damage ships. Every other race has their cap missile ships as multidamage, tyr, angel, herc, lyth, pyth etc.

But in general, good work. Also on the g class( same goes for prs on those, make them lower yet)

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