Voting

Archived Started by DukeEmmoc · 18/06/2006 · 09:20 PM · 5 replies · 0 reads

Archived thread. It was closed and moved to the archive, which is where the board has always kept closed threads. Nothing has been lost — every post is below.

D DukeEmmocOP

OP 18/06/2006 · 09:20 PM #1

Please sign the forum petition on elections

Please do not let the recent admin minor concession deter the majority from demanding a return to the original democratic and more enjoyable voting system which allowed infiltration, internal federation politics and hostile take overs as well as the establishment of multifederation empires - a great part of the game. It also allowed non-paying empires to take over their own federations without getting a paid account - this required effort and hard work with rewarding results.

For those who were not here under the old system the following occured:
There was voting in each federation, and for every planet you had you had one vote. This way larger and hardworking empires had political influence in the federation. The leader had to be good and popular or be replaced. As well as this it was funner as you could infiltrate and destroy enemies creating an interesting slant to the game and allowing for federaitons to actually win wars - currently there is no way you can actually beat a federation.
This was taken away when there was an apparent abusal of a bug where some empires were managing to take over federations without the required amount of planets. Whether this was not an elaborate ploy by the administrators in unknown but what is apprent that instead of the bug being removed it was used as an excuse to remove voting all together. (motivated perhaps by the fact that non-paying persons could gain federations, as well as removing the ability of decent federations being able to beat opponents through political means)
Since that time excuses have kept coming forward and it is almost the official line now that take over of federations was cheating. This of course is not the case if you look at the mannual where take overs of federations are endorsed as an exciting part of the game.

I urge you to support myself and many others in our request for popular election abilities in federations.
Many thanks,
DukeEmmoc

Thread closed by Pandy on 2006-07-23 02:25 PM

P Pandy

23/07/2006 · 02:26 PM #6

oh and to make it simpler for stephen i`m closing the posts that have been added, as tag as answered.

P Pandy

23/07/2006 · 02:25 PM #5

however that being said i`m currently collating the ideas from these posts and putting htem in a spreadsheet to submit to stephen on completion, i will at this time only be adding the ones posted prior to 1 July 2006.

credit to current empire names and empire id`s are taken down for his reference.

P Pandy

23/07/2006 · 02:23 PM #4

once the update is here, and i know you all hear this over and over again, there will be a system in place similar to uc a leader adn 2 lieutenants, this would still allow for hostile takeovers, in fact it gives you far more chance, you merely have to suck up to the leader long enough to gain a positiion as lieutenant and then kick the leader.

D DukeEmmocOP

19/06/2006 · 05:24 AM #3

thanks pandy, my reply/rebuff is on the forum

P Pandy

18/06/2006 · 10:05 PM #2

weirdly just sent this PM to a player talking about this, and i think its completely applicable here. Many know who did this and who the fruit and vegetables feds are that were involved, they also i`ll inform lost a great deal from doing this on their accounts and were punished appropriately.

If the older forum were up you`d all be able to see and read enough about this to fill a bottomless pit.

anyway this is the PM I just sent a player.

oh i agree completey, i want the fed vote back in, however i also don`t want to be the focus of who they yell at when the fed leadership is stolen from them, i`m sure you can understand that.

Fed voting was not removed due to anaboliking regardless of how many keep saying so.

It was abused because 3-4 players who stayed intheir own fed were able to vote for a player they sent out to other feds.

so for example

members
fed named fruit Planets

apple 200 leader
berry 250
cider 250
dudefruit 100

800 votes yes ?

fed name
vegetables Planets

carrot 10 leader
parsnip 10
cabbage 10
peach 1

31 votes yes ?

problem was that peach had 801 votes and took leadership from carrot
so how do you think that happened without abusing the system ?

and that was why it was removed

For the record I miss the voting as do most of the guides and admin, and i`m sure that any with the old anabolikers list could attest to, just about every guide was on it at one stage or other, its not tha anaboliking that we disagree with , its the blatant refusal to believe that in a fed where possible votes where 180, that 800 votes was nothing unusual.

Now I know you all joke about Stephen math, as does Stephen himself.

but there is no way for 180 to = 800

think on that

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