Guard shields

i dont mean nerfd...i mean change missile+chemical to +95 and kinetic and energy to +50 and +25

nah, keep tourm the same, possibly lower ruby weapons or slightly raise their pr...keep k class the same, lower research costs for k class as AGM said...lower the not-smart G and L class pr`s. if they get changed at all, lower their prs, its freaking annoying to have swuch high pr for such a not-smart ship :\...if i think of somthing else i`ll post it up...

oh, and guard has the highest build rate int eh game...which is the problem. either make their ships back up the pr (speaking of g/l class) or drop the pr down a notch.

Ok

1st of all guard ships have very high build rate in general
2nd K class should not be changed from as it is except a possilble lowering in the ridiculous research needed.
3rd ruby and tourm could be weakened as long as L and G class are strengthened to make them worth using otherwise there would be completing no point playing as guard

BS is correct in this matter guard is ment to be played at high pr away from base as far as possible, at even pr the fantastic four are unstopable on offence but for guards old school stacking is to slow nowadays so offence and defence stacking are different. everyone is a spammer exept a few and guards dont have the best build rates

ahh true not-smart me, i was thinking about the L class

erm...k class mods are all 95% but missile and chemical...so he`s talking about nerfing the k class.

lol no way should ruby get nerfed. We barely have any good ships as is. When stacking for offence ruby are fairly useless already except in the lower stacks or if you know the other player has fodder on top. For a guard to stack on offence you have to rely on alot of strafez such as queens and runners and other neutral ships such as broadsword which means attacking on agressive.

On defence in a stack ruby work well but again in lower part of the stack.
Dreamland is talking about improving the k class shields not making them worse :P, well at least thats wut i got from it. That way more guards would prolly try stacking more.

Besides from wut i have seen guards stack more then players attacking them, way too many players using pure herc or flysch spams and attacking careful. Its getting rediculous.

OMG!!!NO!! its hard enuff as it is to stack with guard, and rubys the one the needs to get nerfed, k class dies too often to get nerfed any...they are jus tbarely useful.

and there are plenty of ppl that stack against guard. unless you mean at low prs, and lets face it, nothing can be done to stop guard at those prs.