Compensation/Game Development

I have a high amount of respect for everyone who plays GC, and anything they`ve built up over time. I tend to look from the perspective of how i`d feel if my entire world was turned upside down.

Being blunt the best solution I can come up with, is just adding a new server with some stuff that will ensure certain things that went wrong on RT just cannot happen there.

I`ve only ever tentatively suggested ideas, that would adversely effect gordoed empires, and even then it wasn`t anything that would strip them of what they had.

1) I want to make it clear that I dont believe, and I havent seen anyone suggest that they believe, anyones land should be taken from them. What people have said is that massive land gordod planets are a problem. In fact, they are the root cause for most of the imbalance in game.

Nobody is suggesting that the people who would benefit from anything being discussed are all on one side.
Issue with gordo would impact mompyuser, Grumpy, Rambo is coming up on land, I think Niceguy has a lot of land - Again, I dont want enemies or allies to lose land and nobody has suggested that they should.

Your childish reactions, youre extreme exaggerations, youre straight up lies are not contributing to the discussion at hand. As you say below, you do think land is a problem. So stop being so oddly combative when everyone else agrees with you on that point.

2) Maru doesnt have starbases? Does that mean that people have been calling for all other races to have their base removed? No, it doesnt. Ive never once seen someone say that because maru doesnt have starbases, other races shouldnt either.

Im not a fan of taking away guard starbase (or having it take them out of DP). Im cool with with just gutting its absolutely absurd build rate. And no, I dont think that cutting guards build rates means we need to cut everyone elses build rates either.

Im confused as to why youre able to admit there is an imbalance, but when someone suggests a fix you seem to think its literally impossible to fix things because a certain group of people taking advantage of that imbalance would be upset.

Theres an entire thread about it at this point (oh, thats actually where we are now that I look) but in any other game, obvious imbalances would be fixed even if it meant the people taking advantage of that imbalance were upset because they wouldnt have the obvious best choice. In fact, every suggestion I have seen leaves guard as the fastest br race.

Come back when you have something wort

my point is simple. I told people in 2017 you had to dig.

People Didn`t listen and only started digging more around rambo`s uw. Pointless.

IF there was a cap put in place for land, and artifacts that`s fine.

Taking away all land without compensation is my issue. Most of your groups suggestions have been to nerf funny enough the people who oppose you all on RT.

Miners suck, most of you guys choose to play them. That`s your choice and your own fault if the ships sucks balls. Not A terran or viral or guard who gordo`s.

Miners ships are meant to be defensive.

I`m not dungting completely on your comments. Lets all be honest here, people are being bias-d and I am calling it out.

Does land need a cap for explorable empires? YES
Does artifacts need changed? YES
Does all the nerfing suggestions all have to be against people who are my enemies because we don`t have as much time as they do or you choose to play a race where ships aren`t as good? NO

Badwolf or karolina can do 2 things
First say if I have any gordo`d empires? I don`t
Do i have any guard accounts on TB or anything? I don`t

Do I have miner accounts? Yes and If guards get their star base got rid off like some suggestions here and made into a ship Miners shouldn`t have starbase`s either to build up like some guards to to take the ranks back.
There was a starbase cap suggested In private that if u hit a certain PR with starbases you get a warning that your DP will break. Like vacation building got nerfed, so people couldn`t build to high pr and counters now last until you are out of vacation.

It would work something like that.

Captain Charisma...Nobody in the game is saying Miners are too strong...In fact I saw a guard yesterday state that he thought a guard br nerf was probably needed, and that miners should actually be buffed.

So I dont know what you want me to ask for? More ships I cant even use as miner because theyre great at dying? Like whats your point here?

put a land cap on that was agreed years ago with consulation with the gordo empires.

Ass, the game isn`t going to keep new players just be nerfing older accounts.

The game isn`t very secure. The Games Graphics need updated. Battles need updated to show actual battles, like other games do, they may be cheap animations but andriod on phones have actual visual battles even if they are basic compared to say, PS4 or xbox.

Making this game an App to make money to invest in the game that can be on google store.

On to the things about compensation.

Some People can play GC more than others if they have a work phone, Work computer and obviously home internet. Should we limit the amount of hours playable on RT and Ultra (the 2nd fastest server) so that theres an average amount of time per person is allowed to play to *balance the game out*?

Compensation. Money for paids back I agree.

Land. lets be very clear I have no gordo`d empires right now. Land Cap as agreed years ago should be put in now.

If you take away land from people who legitimately had more time to dig, more time to gordo, more time to play than you, then what you are doing is firstly punishing someone who has more time than you do.

2nd that bulldung argument over knowing things were going to be balanced is not true. No one knew or knows for sure what will be balanced. If the issue was fixed at the time with a cap it would be fine now everyone could hit that cap.

3rd. You people got a UW on ultra through VS artifacts and gordo empires. Yet you are all making suggestions to nerf opposing players races not your own.

I would love to see posts balancing your own races as much as others as it comes across as bias just to Win by nerfing the enemy instead of working on your own accounts with a cap in place.

Lazyness

The 2nd acct rule was not the greatest decision ever. But in the interest of testing the waters (like with KalZul right now doing something different), we need to find out what works and what doesnt. Going to some extremes might not be a bad idea if only to see how they work.

AS, you are correct. The game is not player owned even though it feels like it is. Alot of us have put alot of time and money into the game. BadWolf drives the boat. The Admins execute her will. The Guides help sort newer players and assist Admins with coaching and rule enforcement.

If you wanted to think of things this way; the Guides can be considered representatives of the player base. We have our own opinion, sure, but we do more often than not take what you say into consideration if it makes sense.

Yeah, goes without saying for the recent 2 account rule flop. Think its fair the same goes for if they just did a complete server reset.

Never had one before and never been real talk of one, so I think that would be a bit of a screw you to some people.

But yeah, as far as changes for balance go, I think its totally fair. Especially as I said when most of the cash lost here was people trading among themselves for artifacts. Staff has always said theres nothing they can do when it comes to deals with other players, and theres a pretty good reason the game itself doesnt just sell gordos (or any other artifact).

You must lose something first to get compensated.
If staff says get a second account and you put a paid on it, and then say kill the account again, you should get your paid back.
If they kill a server and you lose 1000$ worth of systems, projects, etc, they better have somewhere stated that they can.

If they change ships etc, you got nothing to moan about.

Assassinators, I agree with everything you said and I believe I stated as much elsewhere.

When it comes to game balance, I really dont care if the people who have invested in a broken system feel ripped off when that system is fixed / balanced. Any other game would say too bad, you shouldnt have given money to other players (again, whether its money or paid coupons) and expected the game to literally never change.

In fact, some games entire income depends on people paying for the new tier 1 archetype only to change it later and make a new archetype more powerful, thus forcing players to spend money on that.

Im by no means advocating a cash grab, but I am absolutely saying that an online game like this is constantly changing - or should be if it wants to keep players around long term - and that if youre investing in something, especially because that something is the safest, best way to play, then you HAVE to assume at some point that the game will be rebalanced to not allow that style of play to simply dominate all other modes of play.

compensation is probably just the paids people used to start second account.

Hence why new fresh server.

And well, i`m no lawyer, but i`m pretty sure that if you don`t state somewhere that you won`t compensate, when game gets changed, and people put money in your game which they will lose with changes, you`ll probably be meeting some lawyers.
Not sure what you can lose on GC though, except time. Different story on UC.