Proposed Gordo Solution

B BadWolfOP

OP 19/04/2016 · 10:16 AM #1

So gordoed empires exist, and one could argue that they are a problem in some ways, but I believe we would all agree that it wouldn`t be fair to punish these people who have decided to gordo instead of hoard. The primary reason we haven`t updated anything with gordos and gordoed empires in mind is because, every idea that we`ve seen has seemed unfair to those empires.

So I would like a propose a multi-pronged update with the aim of providing balance to things without taking away what everyone worked for, and that proposal is simply as follows.

If you have less than 125 planets, then you may only gordo to 150k land. Updated Point: Existing empires would have their land reduced. Agreement so far: Sibi, Raist, TBK

Clustering of c3/c.4s would be changed to work as such:-

C3/C.4`s would gain 15-30% land (with a rare chance this becomes 15-50% land) upon clustering. (An example being you have 5 c2`s totalling 55,000 land and you roll 22% from the land bonus; The C3 would be 67,100 land as a result.) Updated point: Possible Retroactive application using the average value.

C.4 Specific information:-

Collectives would see this bonus to all c.4`s they cluster, and c4`s that exceeded 64,000 land would have their planet counts adjusted to land/1000 rounded, or 125 if the number somehow exceeded 125.

Virals would only see this bonus if they already hold at least one c.4, and have over 125 planets. Virals would also have the same planet count rule as collectives if a cluster triggers this bonus land, and exceeds 64,000 land.

If you hold over 125 planets then your upkeep is reduced by 10%, until you fall below 125 planets.

Footnote
I think some people may have misunderstood my initial point, so i`ll make sure it`s entirely clear it`s 150k land across ALL your planets/colonies hence the 125+ planet limit at 150k land.

Edited by BadWolf on 2016-04-20

Z Zanarkand

20/04/2016 · 03:04 AM #79

Okay chickeny was not the word I was using. Wasn`t even a BAD word. But whatever.

Should update the chat filter...

Z Zanarkand

20/04/2016 · 02:59 AM #78

Hmm. chickeny much? True, I couldn`t catch up. Because I`m a race with no scouts, and I have to hand pick my planets lol. So no, I couldn`t catch up.

R Raistilin

20/04/2016 · 02:56 AM #77

Haha, Zanarkand you simply have no idea the amount of land that I have, much less Sibi.

No, you could not catch up.

Z Zanarkand

20/04/2016 · 02:55 AM #76

Raist, someone could EASILY catch up. I`m on like 16 hours a day. Once I max research all I`ll have to do is dig.

A americanministry

20/04/2016 · 02:51 AM #75

No stop saying that crab, everyone shouldn`t be punished because your ahead in the land race... Just make gordoing diminished returns on land then, if u gordo a colony that has 100k land on it already u get % less land from a gordo. is that easy, but don`t stop them from people possible entirely

R Raistilin

20/04/2016 · 02:46 AM #74

AM, empires like mine and Sibi`s shouldn`t exist, period. The fact that they do isn`t fair to anyone because you cannot catch up to us, you cannot ever have what we have. We won the race and we could continue gordoing at the same rate you are and forever be better than you.

How is that fair to the new player of 2010 + to look and see that no matter what they do they will never be able to compete. Its not fair, but what would be fair is caping the land of gordo`d empires to 150k and then letting any extra land be obtained via fighting/hoarding.

Then, everyone would be able to compete!

D DarthCaedus

20/04/2016 · 02:40 AM #73

if u were to make a c3 is about average if you could explore all way to a c3 but you cant so you have to win crab ones so 80 k is average c3 and below so 60 k should be limit under 125 planets

D DarthCaedus

20/04/2016 · 02:39 AM #72

so i gordo to 150 k land then make a c3. still i think under 125 planets capped at 100 k 5 20 k c2s

A americanministry

20/04/2016 · 02:35 AM #71

This is my problem. Some of us want to have empires like yours that you have had for so many years. Some of us are willing to max infra and gordo or years to do it. Others want to have it in a month by capturing and clustering. You shouldn`t be allowed to lecture us on not having land like you have. Thats totally unfair. We should be able to work hard and get there too. How can you get to do it for so many years and then we all the sudden can`t?

R Raistilin

20/04/2016 · 02:26 AM #70

150k land is low? I`m not sure if this is doable or not, but maybe we can get the Admins to do a search through the Db and tally up top 15 total planet land, then average land across all players just to see what we`ve been living with for 13 years.

Again we can only ask, it may not be possible but it would be interesting to see at least an average.

R Renegade Admin

Admin 20/04/2016 · 02:19 AM #69

Also to clear things up for folks who don`t read or don`t have time, you can have as much land as you want under 125 planets. Just once you cross 150,000 you will be blocked from using gordos on yourself. Very simple.

R Renegade Admin

Admin 20/04/2016 · 02:00 AM #68

Uh mompy... you use your turns to fight.

@American - The whole point of this since you don`t seem to be reading the thread isn`t to stop people from growing their empires. It`s to stop one empire who can explore from being super strong.

Basic Game Design 101: Let not the players abuse a loophole that let`s them not have to utilize time or skill to win at the game.

A americanministry

20/04/2016 · 01:57 AM #67

150k is way to low. Might as well not even gordo at all. How annoying that for 12 years I can`t dig and now for two weeks i can dig and you then make gordos useless... wtf is wrong with you

Z Zanarkand

20/04/2016 · 01:42 AM #66

I agree with that reasoning.

R Raistilin

20/04/2016 · 01:40 AM #65

Uh first off it`s 150k, and second the `cap` only applies if you are UNDER 125 PLANETS TOTAL.

Its like you all don`t even notice that wee fact... the 150k land cap only applies to people who are under 125 planets.

Maybe I can repeat it one more time. Under 125 planets, cap at 150k. Over 125 planets, no cap.

Aaaand again, tld;r version for the people who apparently haven`t read the entire thread or any posts or...anything else.

125 planets = Yay more than 150k land
124 and under = Oh noes, unable to go above 150k land.

A americanministry

20/04/2016 · 01:32 AM #64

This land cap proposal is Really bad.... The whole purpose of this game is to build an empire that doesn`t have to stop growing.... go play a game that has an end if you wanna cap people`s stuff.

A americanministry

20/04/2016 · 01:19 AM #63

How can you land cap an empire to 100k? I have 120k land and havent used a single gordo.... That`s insane... Why are you even considering that, there would be no point in logging on if your empire is just capped at less than you can even explore for...

M mompyuser

20/04/2016 · 01:15 AM #62

generaly i think its an bad idea. if ya cap everything whats the goal for long time players like raist or some others.. ive seen peeps with 3 k days on their conto.this is an decade give or take.. this is good if ya are like chosen ( sorry chosen for usin u as example) who has an restart rate that doesnt extent 2 months lol but peeps with long term vision to put an empire up??? after 6 months ya should be maxed ressearched after 12 to 15 months ya maxed land... and then what are the goals??? where ya put in turns???

T TranquilSuns

20/04/2016 · 12:19 AM #61

Under 125 empires,* not explorable. Heh

T TranquilSuns

20/04/2016 · 12:13 AM #60

150k is pretty high, but as we are testing it out, I think we are on the right track in taking steps like this.

I think that IF the land cap for explorable empires were ever reduced to the point of around 100k, then the bonuses to clusters and upkeep should be reduced or removed as well.

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