Founders UW Normal

ya why cant they at least be spread out in 6 hour intravals, or even try making a new mixed dig with all 3.... I know all these things are impossible but we can dream of the best way to fix it :P

Only if the people of that fed actually live in a place where the time zone allows them to dig. which is the main problem with artifacts one which i intend to fix as soon as i can

Naw Ren TB is about turns... Don`t lower the arti cap or effectiveness. Just remember that the UW fed mates can use btc too to rebuild it...

"I think the only "unfair" thing was that the UW defenders had no Arties (or did not want to use) to fight back. And 30 BTCs is not that much, maybe 2 months of digging."

Indeed. While it was purely an oversight on UFP`s part not to historia PP from the start (due to his reputation at foiling several of our UWs), the truth of the matter is that people whine about artifacts when we used historia to our own advantage, but then no one says anything when the UW sponsor gets the same historia treatment.

And I agree with SIB, without BTC (or with a nerf), the dominant feds would be able to UW each of their members with much greater ease simply by controlling the ranks. Under these circumstances, UFP would have had far more successful UWs than we currently do.

So please, PLEASE nerf BTCs and STC so UFP can start winning more UWs. Maybe then we can galvanize enough people to oppose us seriously enough that they might actually be MOTIVATED TO CHALLENGE OUR CONTROL OF THE RANKS.

If you don`t believe me, watch what happens when you have two UWs on different servers start within 48 hours of each other, and the first one is successful. In such a case, the UW opponents (and defenders) lose any ability to use artifacts until server refresh, which can be as long as 24 hours later if the first UW explosion is timed right after the next server refresh.

What Two players?, if you have a tip or info then please Make an Help Center post. but aside from that please refrain from making accusations in the forums in the future please.

As for arties there should be a reduced storage capacity on all servers for certain artifact which may get addressed after other pending updates....*sigh*

One "unfair" thing is that two players are allowed to share same IP. While others are being punished.

One dig the other fights.

I think the only "unfair" thing was that the UW defenders had no Arties (or did not want to use) to fight back. And 30 BTCs is not that much, maybe 2 months of digging.

Ren with your logic it would be impossible to kill UWs on TB servers. The fed controlling ranks could just build up to 200mil and be 100% sure of a boom because of the low turn regen. Does that sound more fair to you?

BTCs are the possibility for stopping UWs on every TB server, which is exactly as it should be. The only "unfair" thing is the placement of dig time, but it doesnt look like its gonna change anytime soon. It is still a huge advantage being in control of ranks, as you can sit and use your turns exclusively for digging/researching instead of getting borders.

Removing BTCs would be equivalent to granting the big feds a "free-UW forever" card. So no, it doesnt strike me as silly at all that ppl can reinvest their turns (at a horrible ratio) in times of a UW, as they otherwise would be much to easy to do on TB servers.

only way to make the game not silly is the need for brand new servers then :p because there are lots of uber empires running around... its really just the way spacefed is when nothing restarts...

short man complex?

Renegade, I do not understand your problem with 30 BTCs!

I will always put up an effort to prevent anyone from UWing. How much fun do you have playing this game if no opposition is there. This is a problem across servers. Any n00b can get a uw if there is no opposition. Just look at what happened a couple of years ago when accordex and MD had their uws at fast.

I also need to mention. The only reason me and sib managed to do this was because we coordinated everything we did. This is what it means to be allied. You have a common goal. Sib used more than 30 btc on me i think, because my marauder empire is more powerful than his terran atm. This was what made most sense. In the past Grono, Africa, DM and Gil would have done the same. Today i rarely find this attitude.

I only have guide powers Metsu, no power to disburse artifacts. =/

Yeah 2 guys take it down so may as well Rag give them something.

Indeed, I think PP officially deserves the "Server Defender of the Year" award, and should get some sort of reward from staff. SIB should also get something as well.

Without PP and SIB, this UW would have been a likely success due to the lack of motivation from the REST OF THE SERVER in its own defense. This, I am confident, is a fact. :)

7:42 PM 01/01/14
You counter-attacked FOUNDERS. Attack was successful !

Name Units Casualties Remaining
PistolPete`s fleet
D.Angel Battleship 30 0 30
Eel Fighter 1 0 1
C.Aries Corvette 1 0 1
FOUNDERS`s fleet

No defending fleet available !



Colonies Captured

Ultimate weapon was destroyed !

Name Type Land Size
E.6519 Icy 94
E.6516 Marshy 131
E.4692 Balanced 284

Ya... Fleet wasnt strong enough. Anyway... Looking forward to your next attempt.

And thx to sib for suppliying all the BTCs so that we could shoot this down right away.