UW Normal

It would be interesting to see who holds all of the artifacts on the server.

Indeed. I was massively historiaed and lost all my planets for the first time since I actually started this game, and it was overconfidence and carelessness on my part that made it possible.

However, lets get a few facts straight here. You guys are overstating the effect the historia had. We ONLY targeted 4 empires:

PistolePete
Repulse
Metsu
Avaline

The first 2 received 18 or 20 historia each. The other two only received 5 each. So if either one had ANY btc to burn, or asked for assistance from those who did, it`s not like they couldn`t participate in a big way.

So are you seriously telling me that those 4 empires, plus maybe the several empires in VM at the time, are the ONLY ones capable of even stopping a UW?

Problem is I could have historied and then set of the UW 5minutes latter, but it does mean more coordination is required.
And remember that Ragnaroks UW was stopped by him being historiaed to stop him building, and then BTC`s to build and hit him.

Ehhh, I meant "a much lower artifact storage limit". I should learn to read my posts twice before posting..always forget to add the important details :p

So rich empires/empires with already massive arti stashes can buy even more artifacts ?

And no, historias need to be disabled completely during the UW itself if you actually want people to be able to fight back. (given you want to disable/restrict artifact usage, that is)

An artifact storage limit might actually be a good idea to prevent people from amassing humongous amounts of artifacts and be untouchable during UWs. It`d also decrease the gap between old empires who have been digging for ages, and new empires who just started doing so. Not sure that it can be done without Stephen though, but I think that`d be one of the smartest things to do regarding this issue.

Can we make a market for artifacts just like consumer goods etc?

The histoias could be changed to not knock people into VM or whatever it is after we drop 18 of them on you.

The main problem is still the time based digging.

Forgot to add in my previous post:

If you really want to disable certain artifacts during TB UWs, you should disable historias not capsules. True, people might preemptively hist people but it`ll certainly make it easier to fight an UW, given you`ve a time capsule stash,during the actual UW if you can freely use your caps without getting countered with hists as soon as you show your nose out of DP.

@AS, that`s not a solution. If anything, it`ll make things worse. Consider, for example, an UW on Normal such as yours, during which top 10 consisted entirely from UFP players. Now, how do you expect an UW like that to get taken down without any time capsules ? As for fighting during the build up stage, you can`t ever be sure who wants to UW and when, especially if there are about 10 other people high up in the ranks, fezzing up hard.

Removing capsules isn`t an option, imho.

Could get radical and just turn artefacts off, but that would make uw`s easier/different as all of the fighting would be during the build up stage as there would be no BTC`s the spam large takedown fleets.
Also the needs are different on turn based than RT

"Some of us can`t dig, whereas many in UFP can. " Got a percentage on that? I cant dig and I know a few others who cant. I agree with you 100% on the dig times, always have

Admiral, stephen doesn`t have the code anymore HAHAHAHAHAHA.. You say why ? Its a joke i suppose. .Its real,XD no changes can be made.

Make digging like exploring.... you can do it any time with a random chance of getting 1k barrens / rare artis.

I would agree to this, I can only dig during daylight savings, which is only half of the year.

So yes remove the time zones for digging, should be an easy code change.

Gratz AS. i came home from a night out and remember i aint log in for a few days to notice Historias on me and then just laugh. ah well nothing major done :)

Agreed on the DM comment, great ringleader, though there arent as many rings to lead anymore.

Old empires sitting on large land and big arti stockpiles in vm all the time suck, better for them to forget to log in at vm end and let an active person take their land and put it to good use.
Congrats AS :)

Also i bet if DM had been here it would not have been so easy, as this UW was lacking a good opposing organizer like DM was.

Thanks you all those in the fed that helped me, I have been planning this for a while (which was mostly digging).