Idea to improve Guardian

Perhaps the UW reward in TB should be an assortment of arties or at least a bunch of arties of your choosing. Then perhaps the "gordo" cluster can exist.

What would guards need with UW ships? they have deadly ships as it is. For ship rewards, maybe completing all the missions should drop K class down to 15k turns or something.

What do i know? Im RT...and collective who never played guard for more than a day. But i do pay attention to most guard related threads

All things considered, I`ve paid the price, and I dont want UW ships,
but I wouldnt mind some reward (arti ??) that would allow me to increase Loyalty ??

haha rag im sorry you didnt pick up my sarcasm on my first comment

dont get mad lmao

agreed with K class reduction, to maybe 10k instead of 25k.. 25k on ultra feels like such a long time lol

Cough, cough, cough
One thing that would be "nice" to consider, for Turn Based (Normal & Slow)
And this relates to the whole idea of speeding up Start-Up Times;

What about reducing the amount of research time required to get K Class ???

Wow people here are clueless about turn based. :<

If you shorten the start up of guards, at least fix the build rates to balance it.

You are right, it should be a lot longer

Guards are more balanced on TB server, because unlike rt gordo`s aren`t nearly as prolific so to get land they generally have to get clusters and that means being unexplorable and having a high base pr just like every one else with the only difference being the Guards still retain that ridiculous turn efficiency of their ships which is more painfully obvious to non capitals spamming empires who fight guards on TB servers.

The only reason why there aren`t more guards is due to the slow start up, which may be changed in the near future, i`m not about to hand out pity prizes to them for doing damage during a UW, or for completing missions If anyone who`s a guard cared at all about UW rewards they should have realized that they picked the wrong race to begin with. and i highly doubt any preUW reward empires who are guards on TB atm would want to sacrifice all that research land and everything else just for some more ships anyhow or they would have already restarted to a race that could UW.

Edited by EphemeralEternity on 2013-06-09

while yall are at it, make the collectives on rt be able to actually use a captured cluster. all we get to do with them is pop em up and plunder. and thats not cost effective. we cant mine them or use for agri. its not really worth catching them unless youre a start up.

Guards on TB are already monsters hahah people aren`t playing guards because they just don`t want to, making them more op isn`t a real solution.

He`s talking TB, not RT. Situation with guards there is totally different.

guard is already OP. why give them another useful ship?

Yep, just like always any guard talk gets cut short soon as it starts.

No, if they want UW ships they can do them as other races and when they have all 3 or the ones they want they can UW one last time to guard.

Edited by EphemeralEternity on 2013-06-08