Should Collective get a buff?

well im gonna try it out and see what i think of it.

I agree too. EE for President! sorry BipsBoops

I find myself agreeing with EE on this kind of... Also the reason I think it is pretty balanced the way it is, being hard to start but smoothing out later, if you can play the race like that.

Well i have to disagree with WolfHaley on the fact that their Upkeep scales up well with their econ. Collective and marauders both need a lower upkeep on ships early on but after the point where they manage to find 80k+ land their economy tends to become over powered at which point they both could use an average upkeep more closely kin to .6-.7 rather than that .18 and .3

I know there`s plenty of people who will disagree but i know marauders and collectives can both thrive just fine selling food below 5 for weeks if need be and no being able to hide in NP, i`ve done it myself.

I wished we could Scale ship upkeeps/cost based on land and whether and empire is explorable or not up to a cap of course. say upkeep is x by 20% for every 30k land you have up to a max of 240% and if your able to explore it throws an additional 35% so that if you have loads of gordo`d land and can explore then your upkeep would be 270ish% though special consideration would have to be included for mineral miners

Edited by EphemeralEternity on 2013-05-25

I should really go back to playing collective...most fun race.

The lack of targets right now is due to the dp timer reset from the uw. It is not impossible to survive as collective; however, it is rather difficult to be collective if you cannot check the ranks many times throughout the day.

It takes time to set up the initial few fights out of NP (buying minerals and ore), quite possibly more challenging than other races, but not significant on RT.

The only real challenge with collective is trying to find 2+ people out of dp in a PR range where you have a reasonable amount of time/turns to attack both. Collective has powerful ships versus a.miner and terran. Ship upkeep scales very well with the economy, and the build rate keeps collectives in check.

When you first start out as collective (I admit I feel into this mindset when I started collective), you might think "this is so hard. collective needs balancing/buffs," it is not really the case. Once you get your empire set up, it is smooth sailing. If you don`t want to be active, it is really easy to refresh your dp. You see a terran or a.miner out of dp? You attack them, almost always get 3 borders, and wait for someone to put you in dp.

He did it on RT... like 3 days ago.

What he means by killed one, is that he just UWed as one lol

ahem, I just killed a 390 planet Coll. Why should it get a buff?

No, they need a few things but scouts sure not one of them. Couple battleships or one capital ship would do them good.

Collective is meant to be hard, I always recommend playing terran and minor to power to get a feel for the game before choosing one of the harder races. You need to learn to master how to stack and read the ranks in order to play as a collective and you need to be active to grow your empire. If this is your chosen race you set your heart on then pm one of the older collectives, if not I suggest getting a feel for the game because collective is awesome and has no need of a serious update.