RE ships

I guess the rationale is, unless otherwise specified most people assume questions are coming from RT (thus the RT-related responses). In this case, if ForsakenWolf was talking about a TB server then the importance of turn efficiency would be more important as you say.

However I believe he`s on RT, and turn efficiency goes out of the window at some point depending on how much time you have to build.

SystemFailure: I dont think I am ignorant. I know very well that people play this game for different reasons. Some want to build beautiful stacked fleets to get what they consider beautiful wins, some care about the win/loss ratio, some want to have tons of crab planets and some care about controlling a server.

When playing a TB server with the purpose of controlling a server, the tiger and shark are useless. You dont build a 10 stacked fleet if you want to be turn efficient and there will always be better options than those two ships when you build your fleet. I think the turn efficiency is what makes the difference from TB to RT, and it is also the reason why most people who majorly have played at RT dont recognize or understand this.

There`s no `def re list` there`s only a general build you should follow to fill roles you need.. shark and chlor both fill a single role which you only need one ship to fill so it`s a moot point to grab both

so is there a def RE list for viral or has eveyrone just playd a off viral?

Be kinda silly to take both, then you lose a great offensive ship slot.

barr did murder one of the V.class when i was trying to RE it but yea ;p so what about chlor and shark together for a def stack?

i duno pistolpete u seem pretty ignorant on virals :/ barracuda is only good in theory end result it`s dunge the only real maru choices are pyth pike shark tiger imho

Kaworu.. When i say RE baracuda over the other ships its based on my personal experience playing a TB server for years with a big viral. When turn matter the most the most important stats are dmg/turn and effective hull/PR. (Effective hull it the combination of shields and base hull).

Anyway.. What i try to say is that the most efficient way to play in the ranks at times when turns matter will never be to build any of the options we are discussing... Shark is a terrible ship to deal deal damage with, so is chlor. What you will need to do is to spam your caps and maybe some v.class if you have a good idea that you can capture some turns. That is Herc, Flysch, pyth, tyr, lyth and maybe nirv. And when you are building these fleets it is more valuable to build some relatively weak dummies that are immune to fez.

Of course if you are having trouble keeping your planets and dont play to hold the ranks shark or chlor may be a good option.

Having 3 queen killers a nice thing though even at RT. Ive sometimes been in a situation were i have a counter on a guy sitting high in the ranks. You know they most likely have a stack or two of fez. If you can build 3 stacks that has the likelihood of killing the queen stacks you way better off. Then afterwards you can start spamming something to shoot the rest down.

After running multiple tests in the sim and crunching numbers I have come to the following conclusion concerning chlor vrs shark and this is what I have found.


GuArD OwNz

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What he said :(

Lol fighting over if shark or chlor is better. L2Kclass.

I did and I have, Even pairing it up against common missile ships to give it the benefit of the doubt. It`s cheap, but otherwise not great.

Having an abundance of hull doesn`t compensate for the fact that it can`t shoot back with much effectiveness. I would suggest taking another look yourselves.

Say what you will, take the shark and use it, i`ll never lose to you though lol

Does it have to be pike and pyth? Why not shark, tiger, cuda?

TranquilSuns is also a big newbie, so don`t listen to him.

Chlor is better. Shark is bad.