Well as many of you know we suspended UW ship rewards for some time our solution for now is to create three different ships for those who set off UW`s the UW.Class basically from this point on when ever someone sets off a UW they will get one ship from this class, If they set off another UW as a different race they will gain another ship from the list, and if they set off a third from a race they haven`t UW`d from they will gain the last and final ship in the class,
There is more to this post (i ran out of room) look back it`s the first reply and make sure you read it all before posting because i may answer some of your questions down there.
UW. Eins Cruiser
E: 0
K: 1,250
M: 2,250
C: 0
H: 3,500
S: 104
Range: 8
PR: 4441
BR: 8
Upkeep (844 for guards) ( 2,220 For collective and Maru) (4,929 For Virals and Terran) (6,883 for Miners )
Shields
ES: -45%
KS: 35%
ECM: 35%
IH: 0%
No Retal
Mineral requirements
(5 WC, 2 TM, and 2 RC, for guards) ( 5 WC, 2 TM, and 2 RC, For collective and Maru) (10 WC, 6 TM, and 6 RC For Virals and Terran) (15 WC, 8 TM, 8 RC for Miners )
This would be the first ship received by everyone, Duel Damage and two positive shield mods.
UW.Zwei Dreadnought
E: 7,000
K: 4,000
M: 7,500
C: 0
H: 27,000
S: 1100
Range: 7
PR: 27,706
BR: 2
Upkeep (5,541 for guards) ( 14,130 For collective and Maru) (31,861 For Virals and Terran) (44,329 for Miners )
Shields
ES: 15%
KS: -50%
ECM: 65%
IH: 65%
No Retal
No Defense
Mineral requirements
( 24 of each for guards) ( 27 of each For collective and Maru) ( 100 of each For Virals and Terran) ( 350 of each for Miners )
This would be the Ship received for 2 UW`s Triple damage type and Three positive shield mods.
UW.Drei Destroyer
E: 500
K: 300
M: 700
C: 100
H: 2000
S: 80
Range: 8
PR: 2,032
BR: 15
Upkeep (447 for guards) ( 1,097 For collective and Maru) (2,418 For Virals and Terran) (3,291 for Miners )
Shields
ES: 30%
KS: 60%
ECM: 10%
IH: 50%
Mineral requirements
( 2 So, 2 C, and 2 RT of each for guards) ( 3So, 3 C, and 3 RT For collective and Maru) ( 6 So, 6, C and 6 RT For Virals and Terran) ( 10 So, 10 C, and 10 RT of each for Miners )
This would the the ship reward for 3 UW`s all 4 damage types and 4 positive shields as such the hull is kept low and it lacks no retal and no defense
All ships have fairly expensive upkeep in comparison to the race because each one of these ships are fairly spamable for some of the races the high upkeep was compensated by a lower mineral cost.
Edited by EphemeralEternity on 2012-05-30
UW Ship Rewards Solution
Started by EphemeralEternity
· 30/05/2012 · 08:32 AM
· 108 replies
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Ragnarok
Gradual, are you sure the max colonies won`t be reduced from 18/15 to 17/14 for terran and miner respectively? If colony count is the same, then that would really be quite the advantage.
Keep an Eye out For Jager and Kampfer on RT.
i gave up all my rewards like a month after my uw..lol. i wish that maybe those who have UW`ed could atleast maybe test the new ships for a week tho :P that would be nice of you. as for proof, i know theres a way to find it if they have kept the same empire since they started. maybe make the cut off from like 08+ or something. tho i doubt that will happen haha
Know what I like most about this idea? The removal of home worlds from the Terran and A-miner empires that succeed and go those races. Just think of what you can do with another col spot that can be useful. *starts dreaming*
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Ragnarok
I know matrix, and I had a hard time defending my UW in the final 12 hours. But staff has made up their minds on this. In fact, the Galleon and all the crying going on about it from the folks who have to fight the people who took the ship in a UW is probably half the impetus for this change anyways. Pyth and Hoko are also the two other main reasons, and to a lesser extent the herc. =/
Its a better solution for sure. I like that you make the ships upkeep adjusted to the races and that the upkeep is high.
Hell no! From what I`ve seen and having played collective myself, its hard as heck to uw with them. So... Earning the chance to carry over one of the best ships in the game, don`t take that away.
But if you restart, or whatever, you lose it. So be wise what race you choose
But if you restart, or whatever, you lose it. So be wise what race you choose
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Requiem
thumbs up
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Ragnarok
I`m thinking you`re talking about ultra EE? And yea, the 10k planet I initially got was a nice boost in the beginning, and I have a 103k c3 instead of a 93k c3 because of it.
And yea, I`ll try not to complain too much especially since the decision makers already made their decision. Galleon is pretty overpowered for other races though, especially when fighting against collectives. I know the collective members of my fed didn`t like it when they were fighting fuzzy, the 2nd collective to ever UW and take the galleon (i was the first). And I know I had an unfair advantage when I was fighting collectives myself.
In retrospect, H class really should have been disallowed as a UW ship anyways, but back then the "lucas empire" idea was the point of the UWs in the first place. Now it`s just sort of going away due to the "cheap ships going to rich empires" problem that makes it unworkable.
And yea, I`ll try not to complain too much especially since the decision makers already made their decision. Galleon is pretty overpowered for other races though, especially when fighting against collectives. I know the collective members of my fed didn`t like it when they were fighting fuzzy, the 2nd collective to ever UW and take the galleon (i was the first). And I know I had an unfair advantage when I was fighting collectives myself.
In retrospect, H class really should have been disallowed as a UW ship anyways, but back then the "lucas empire" idea was the point of the UWs in the first place. Now it`s just sort of going away due to the "cheap ships going to rich empires" problem that makes it unworkable.
DM you would be eligible for the Eins since you seem to be one of the first who`s ship rewards were put on hold, Backoff Unfortunately no had you not been viral you would have gotten a ship back then...the only people Empires eligable are those that have vmed in the past 6 months i guess, i`d really need to check BW but i doubt there`s more than 4-5 empires who would get anything and all they would be getting is one ship.
the only reason they`re getting a ship is as compensation for not receiving their ship reward after their UW and having for having patience.
the only reason they`re getting a ship is as compensation for not receiving their ship reward after their UW and having for having patience.
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Cattleya
i think its great what you guys came up with. i am glad this game is still bringing forth new ideas and ways to balance it, so high five to the admins from my part, who work and spend time for free for the love of this game!!!
now give me my ship lmao :P
now give me my ship lmao :P
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backoff
@ DM & EE, i UWed around 3 yrs ago and i did not carry any ship over, so, m i entitle a new ship too?
On Ultra. Rag, don`t complain, I lose 4 ships.
it`s a shiny prize, but it`s hardly the only one, i`m sure that bonus planet helped more to begin with than the ship. you can fight from dusk til dawn but good land is a bit more difficult to come by on slower servers.
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Ragnarok
*sigh*
Well it was good while it lasted, this changes things considerably. Much as I`d hate to lose my precious Galleon on normal as a tax miner with a massive c3 (only outdone by fuzzy, of course), I suppose it`s all for the best if all the other two UW winners lose their own advantages too. Quite frankly, Fuzzy with his pyth, herc, galleon combo with his massive tax empire is downright scary! And DM has that annoying ability to just massively starbase jump with effectively like 400 turns or more worth of lakko. :P
Plus, UFP gets to have the only empire on Normal server with a UW ship a year from now if no one pulls off a UW!! :D
That said, it still doesn`t feel good to have that nice shiny prize you got from your hard work, and then have it taken away from you after a while. At least you gave fair notice instead of jerking it away. =/
Well it was good while it lasted, this changes things considerably. Much as I`d hate to lose my precious Galleon on normal as a tax miner with a massive c3 (only outdone by fuzzy, of course), I suppose it`s all for the best if all the other two UW winners lose their own advantages too. Quite frankly, Fuzzy with his pyth, herc, galleon combo with his massive tax empire is downright scary! And DM has that annoying ability to just massively starbase jump with effectively like 400 turns or more worth of lakko. :P
Plus, UFP gets to have the only empire on Normal server with a UW ship a year from now if no one pulls off a UW!! :D
That said, it still doesn`t feel good to have that nice shiny prize you got from your hard work, and then have it taken away from you after a while. At least you gave fair notice instead of jerking it away. =/
if you didn`t receive your ships the last UW you`d be entitled to one, which server DM?
What about those that UWed with 3 different races and never got their rewards for the past 135 days(me)?
Am I getting 3 ships?
Am I getting 3 ships?
Hmm, interesting way to go about changing this EE and anyone else involved. I like it better than the other ship reward. I`m not sure if it won`t require tweeking, but it`s defiinately a step in the right direction.
yeah it can take longer than a year but your UW on slow is the last one to be effected which was in 26/08/11, and Fuzzy was the last UW on normal to be effected which was 09/05/11 so everyone that`s going to be affected will has had some time on normal and slow to build up their accounts
Edited by EphemeralEternity on 2012-05-30
Edited by EphemeralEternity on 2012-05-30
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Infernal
all I have to add to this is that it takes much more than a year to uw on slow/normal. things don`t just happen at that pace(although my fed may have shown that is not that true in the past), especially depending on races(e.g. me collective, gonna take quite a while)
again, its a good place for slow to grow now, since things are moving.
that`s all I have to add. my previous ship collections were purely for future UWs. now its going away, not quite too sure what i have to feel about it, but..meh.
again, its a good place for slow to grow now, since things are moving.
that`s all I have to add. my previous ship collections were purely for future UWs. now its going away, not quite too sure what i have to feel about it, but..meh.
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