Empire UW (Normal)

I`m sorry grantweep. I`m so so sorry.......*gives grantweep a big comforting hug when he sees the tears well up in grantweep`s eyes..............then lets off a huge smelly fart and refuses to let go when grantweep`s eyes go from a look of sadness to one of terror and extreme disgust*

This deal doesn`t apply to me rag? :(

And I`ll be clear, I`m not saying that EMPIRE didn`t cheat. But omeg you seem to imply that based on the evidence, you think he did and stephen overruled you. I don`t know how EMPIRE`s case was handled, but rest assured I think that your opinion would matter the least considering the massive conflict of interest you have on normal server.

MOBsters, UFPers, and respective allies, I suggest we all cease talking about the EMPIRE controversy. Take it to the battlefield or hold your peace.

That said, if anyone wants to make a deal, I make this honest promise on my solid word (this applies only to me):

If you contact me and I buy your red crystal, I will sell 1/3 of it back to you (as if you were in UFP) if you see me online and you contact me. This applies even to MOB/lair members (though whether or not they will trust me is another matter). You can even make hits on EMPIRE if you like, I won`t hold it against you. But be warned, I won`t sell your minerals back to you if EMPIRE`s UW fails. :P

I love it when admins/guides (omeg) have a double standard.

Isn`t the public forum not supposed to be used for cheating accusations?

Well admittedly I don`t know what you`re talking about with stephen and what not, so I will see how things play out.

as for lack of minerals i think ppl should restart as mineral miner and make them or better still every1 should restart as maruader and we can all hold hands and go bankrupt together with no one to buy our food.

well i think its time that TRM`s monopoly on uw`s was addressed and the balance shifted even if only minutely.

Let me rephrase it. LIF, we knew both sides were countering each other`s UW attempts. Hence why the builds and the vming.

What disgusts me at this time is the fact from knowing something and then hearing that it was circumvented entirely by Stephen. Uber, I rarely slander anyone in this game and in this case like have you seen me accuse anyone of a multi or cheat other than maybe one other person in my 5 years ... dont think so. I choose my words wisely in this case, because things don`t add up when I look at all the information.

Its like that not-smart flying man that did all that with CGI ... if you dont know what i mean by that, go look at freaking gizmodo.

Edited by Omegian on 2012-03-22

I hardly threw him under the bus, but I will take a step back and say I see the point that the thread spoke of helping UFP stop pending UWs and now here we are with one. So I will slowly back away now.....

I agree with MajorDinero; trying to slander EMPIRE`s name with accusations is in poor taste, especially in what should be a fun occasion: a UW attempt.

Hey, don`t throw your buddy under the bus there. He didn`t even name anyone.

What he did say was stuff like this:
"Again, look at your red and white crystal reserves and ask yourself, can you still play on the server if this was reduced by 90% and there was no opportunity to buy more?"

What did I lie about? All I said was the Ragnarok thread warned people that grantweep was building high. It never said no one should UW or that UFP wouldnt ever try one. And the rest of what I said is true also.

I don`t think EMPIRE has cheated or acted unethically in any way.

I know he was under investigation at 1.5k PR for a while, but I presume he was proven innocent based on good evidence.

Meh, LIF, you can stop lying about who was going to UW, a few of us have known it for a while, even Rag has talked to me about it.

But, all I have to say is meh, the circumstances of some of the stuff I dislike about this and to me call this an abuse, but meh. What can I do to fight the creator of this game.

grantweep and fuzzy, not sure what all this honesty talk is. All Rag said in that thread is that grantweep was building high unopposed. We dont know who is going to UW, not even ourselves!

dont listen to fuzzy and GW, dont hit the uw, we come in peace, you wont lose anything :)

All I can do is give suggestions. It`s important to start hitting ASAP.

SMALL HITS (<300T)
Best would be to target the stacks 1 at a time. Hit the fodder aggressively with ruby, pinnace, sapphire, or pyth. (broadsword, aragonite, and nirvana are next best.) Go with full dummies unless you want to try to get a ship like light frigate to wipe themselves, in which case have the right number dummies to tie up all stacks above that ship.
If hercules is top, hit agressively with amethyst or large strafez runner. No point to build dummies if you aren`t wiping the hercules.
If tyr is top, hit agressively with emerald or broadsword (unpaid = galleon or queen). No point to build dummies if you aren`t wiping the tyr.

BIG HITS
If you have BTC, about 950 turns could kill about 80M PR. You should probably contact me or Grant if you want some advice on those hits.

Agreed Fuzzy, at least when we controlled the servers we were honest about UWing :P

But this fleet looks terribly weak, almost deceptively weak. I doubt that killing the fleet alone will stem EMPIRE`s UW. He is almost certainly comitted a fair portion of BTCs for rebuilding/exploring

He is still #6 on the richlist, lol.

...and so after all that anti-UW propaganda (http://gc.gamestotal.com/hef.cfm?&3141&f=hef_detail&hi=11197&ch=1) UFP is the first to UW...
This UW will probably succeed because of the breakdown of their opposition and because of all the UFP artifacts...or will it?

I can`t do anything because of the 21 hist I received :(