Paid Ships Changes.

OP 03/01/2012 · 01:32 AM #1

Below are the proposed changes for Paid ships to make them more worth your hard earned money. Look them over and add any comments suggestions and concerns as always, most of them look a bit Op`d and some of them are slightly Op`d but they`re also "Paid" ships so they should have some decent advantage to having them besides another ship in your shiplist. Note that there are two versions of the Broad Sword. Please vote for one and only one.

After a week of discussion we will implement the changes and open up the DM for testing for another week, we could use lots of real data. they have been tested, but Real world testing is always much much better.

C.Leo

E: 500 > 650
K: 500 > 650
M: 0
C: 0
H: 5,000 >4,500
S: 175 > 176
R: 7
PR: 2,848 > 3,006
BR: 10
Upkeep 2,100 >2,500

ES 20 > 10
KS 15 >5
ECM -30 >-25
CS 0

Mineral requirements
TM 0
RC 5 > 6
WC 7 >9
RT 0 > 0
C 6 > 8
SO 0

Ret No >yes
Def No > yes

B Sword Assault ver.

E: 0
K: 700 > 1100
M: 0
C: 0
H: 1,000 >750
S: 80 > 12
R: 9
PR: 1,116
BR: 20 > 25
Upkeep 635 > 752

Strafez King

Br:40 >50
Upkeep 60 >53

Mineral requirements
RC 0
WC 0
RT 0
C 0
SO 45 >40

Fenrir

E: 350 > 450
K: 250 > 400
M: 0
C: 0
H: 2,800 >2000
S: 68 > 60
R: 8
PR: 1,512
BR: 18
Upkeep 1350

ES 20 > -15
KS -30 >10
ECM 30 >25
CS 0

Continued...

Edited by ShatterdDreams on 2012-01-07

Edited by ShatterdDreams on 2012-01-13

H Helms{}Deep

22/01/2012 · 02:32 AM #87

With all of the changes to ships, from the last change and now this new one, I would like to see an opportunity for Virals to get to resubmit their shipyard, or get their ships unreversed so they can have an opportunity to `re-capture` their shipyard.

B Brotherhood

11/01/2012 · 12:29 PM #86

Can`t wait to see just how much the changes effect activity..really wish I had a CC to buy a paid with :( Even though I not paid anymore I guess I can test getting attacked by them haha :)

R Requiem

09/01/2012 · 12:11 PM #85

translation for what kelti said: "You take out charcoal from the bonfire to make it smaller... and put it in to make it bigger. That`s cheating and abusing the laws of nature!"

S ShatterdDreamsOP

09/01/2012 · 08:28 AM #84

nothing atm TBK, there weren`t enough entries, and the pm`s expired and got deleted, but i will probably throw it back up again, but not right now

A Apollo

09/01/2012 · 07:56 AM #83

1.32 hull to pr you mean, its actually the shields that bother me :P

T TheBlueKnight

09/01/2012 · 07:20 AM #82

now to sound un-greatfull but whats going on with the star-base updates/contest?

S ShatterdDreamsOP

09/01/2012 · 07:18 AM #81

rather have a hull heavy fenrir than a higher damage version with 1.5 hull to pr...to each there own

A Apollo

09/01/2012 · 06:58 AM #80

even with the weapon increase, i like the current fenrir instead of the purposed one

S ShatterdDreamsOP

09/01/2012 · 06:53 AM #79

um there is an original ship list, and thats exactly why scanners exist on ships kelti so adjustments can be made and pr can be either boosted or lowered without touching stats...i don`t think it`s that big of a secret

Edited by ShatterdDreams on 2012-01-09

R Raistilin

09/01/2012 · 06:53 AM #78

Yes.... we drop or raise scanner rating to affect the ratio of Hull or Weapons to pr... Now if you could explain what you mean by `abuse` I would simply love to hear it.

K keltikelti

09/01/2012 · 06:52 AM #77

basically Stop changing scanner rating vs power rating Ratio`s.. abusers

K keltikelti

09/01/2012 · 06:51 AM #76

what i`m telling everyone is that the staff is reducing scanner rating on ships.
for what purpose..
1. so they can boost weapons
3. so they can boost hull
2. to drop power rating greatly
there is no way to show how these mod`s are supposed to be anymore because of all the changes that have been made to multiple ships already .. give me the original ship lists and i`ll show you what bug abuse Game Mods have been using.

(oh wait there is no original ship list b/c then they can get away with it)

I Ishamael

09/01/2012 · 06:34 AM #75

kelti:

[Weapon total + (Hull/4) + (Range*5) + (Scanner*5)] * Ship class modifier = Ship pr (with a few exceptions). This is not a bug.

S ShatterdDreamsOP

09/01/2012 · 06:27 AM #74

Kelti you absolutely lost me, but i think some where along the way the world lost you too :(

R Raistilin

09/01/2012 · 05:47 AM #73

Provide numerical proof ( like using green yedi`s sim ) to show what you mean. We`d be happy to receive all the data you gather on these ships.

K keltikelti

09/01/2012 · 04:48 AM #72

C Leo = C.class are supposed to be balance making it not balance goes against all rules of C.class
B Sword = Assault ver.
Strafez King = defeats the purpose of changing build rates
Fenrir = idk what you admin`s have against terrans but stop destroying good ships
>>>Sapphire = love how you use the scanner rating bug that no one has any comprehension of
Thresher = too much of hull increase
Cronus = gotta love how taking away 120 scanner gives so much weapons and hull increase with no power rating increase
Corsair = ouch upkeep
Hun Zen = keep playing with scanner to change ship stats.. don`t forget to take all scanner rating out of the game and see what happens

A Apollo

09/01/2012 · 02:58 AM #71

Personally, i find the way the races paid ships are... well fine really... its the neutral paid ships i feel that need to be buffed...

T TheBlueKnight

08/01/2012 · 06:55 AM #70

don`t speak ill of the cronus :)

I Ishamael

08/01/2012 · 06:41 AM #69

...or you could build a useful ship and have it for the next fight, too SD lol

S ShatterdDreamsOP

08/01/2012 · 05:47 AM #68

if your stacking and know your target is spamming something weak to missile apollo is a great ship to use. that 1.21 damage to pr ratio can do some magic when it flanks...

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