Empire Income Changes Proposal

R RagnarokOP

OP 14/11/2011 · 06:13 AM #1

I think that given the fact that commercial Terran empires make up the majority of new empires, I say we need to give Terrans a very nice boost in commercial production.

We all know that as far as income paths go, commercial is by far the worst path you can take despite the security it gives. Despite this, this is the path recommended for all the newbs, yet by the time they realize that fact, they`ve already committed several months and/or many hours into the game. Even commercial empires who`ve been around forever and accumulated tons of research and planets have only mediocre incomes at best compared to taxers and food producers.

So I say help the newbs for once and give a bonus to commercial terrans. Nothing crazy, maybe 10-20% bonus to commercial in line with their agriculture bonus.

I don`t recommend it, but if you want to take anything away for balance purposes, maybe decrease agriculture from 20% to 10% for terrans and increase agriculture boost to collectives to make up for overall food loss.

Also, marauder and even collective needs a massive boost in plunder in order to make that income path more viable for the long term. I`m talking on the order from +400% to +800% or even higher. This is because out of all income paths, going plunder is the ONE way to assure you will NEVER make it even on the lower levels of the rich list, and definitely a way to assure that you will never UW. Low numbers of players only exaggerate this problem.

It`s so bad that MARAUDERS of all races are preferring to go AGRICULTURE instead of PLUNDER of all things. They are MARAUDERS!!! NOT FARMERS!!! Yet every marauder UW ever done by an agriculture Marauder. THIS NEEDS TO CHANGE!!

I don`t know if this is a "requires Stephen" change or not. If so, I apologize for wasting your time. But if admins can somehow swing these proposed changes (or something similar), then as long as the changes are for the positive, then I applaud any efforts.

D Deamon666

18/11/2011 · 11:42 PM #36

i think a few permanent npc`s that rebuild and re explore on there own would be a great way to draw a few extra people out of dp to attack the npc`s and then when they come out there enemies will chase them down.

once you get that going you got a new dinamic to the game driving combat even whit this lower player base you will have peopel out of dp hunting instead of coming out 10 mins befor it runs out and rocketing up the ranks for a half hour trying to get out of easy counter or fedwar range

there is a vicious cycle going on here if any one would care to look
1 people don`t wanna come out cus there is "no targets"
2 whit them no comming out there is no one driven to chase them
3 rince recycle repeat = very few people bothering to come out befor dp runs out

and if its a matter of someone controlling them then maibe make sometype of master acc for them all and have 1-3 G`s get to play whit them as long as they keep them active the whole time

cus a npc that just sits in dp is no fun eather

BTW SORRY FOR MY SPELLING

F Fuzzy

17/11/2011 · 12:29 PM #35

I`m not at all a fan of bots, or that combined fed fleet thing...the last thing we need is to make our game another UC.

R RagnarokOP

17/11/2011 · 12:03 PM #34

What would be cool is if the amount of times a specific fed (or fedless player) attacked a bot, which affects an internal political meter that determines who it will hit for borders or enslave.

R RagnarokOP

17/11/2011 · 11:59 AM #33

"Also the recent buildrate boosts are a massive accomplishment, probably the best thing to happen to this game IMO."

Indeed. While I did not craft the final product, I smile inside knowing that I played a small part in getting the ball rolling on this positive change. :)

R RagnarokOP

17/11/2011 · 11:54 AM #32

Since this is sort of a MMORPG, and since NPCs and bots are a standard part of such games, it would be reasonable to put in.

Also, you don`t need stephen to put in a bot. There are plenty of players I`m sure who already come up with the proper code to do all the things a real player does, and I`m even willing to bet that not all of them have been banned, suspended, blacklisted, or shot by the GC mafia who own a monopoly on the ice cream they sell to Stephen. :P

D Deamon666

16/11/2011 · 10:09 PM #31

and uber i never said i would not respond i just put up that it was up to you how you responded :P

D Deamon666

16/11/2011 · 12:15 PM #30

ok i am tired been in a bad mood all day this waz awsome fun :P
now every one can join me in burning in hell all space crack addicts welcome
FREE BEER cheers

U UberPansy

16/11/2011 · 10:01 AM #29

You`re a coward Deamon666, hurling insults over the interwebs.

Remember you`re the one who said: "thats my rant enjoi hate flame its up to you"

R Raistilin

16/11/2011 · 09:35 AM #28

Ignorant -

ig·no·rant/ˈignərənt/
Adjective:
Lacking knowledge or awareness in general; uneducated or unsophisticated.
Lacking knowledge, information, or awareness about something in particular: "ignorant of astronomy".

Using GC as an example - Someone who constantly types words incorrectly, and then goes around yelling at people with who have different opinions.

Edited by Raistilin on 2011-11-16

D Deamon666

16/11/2011 · 09:09 AM #27

my post IS NOT ABOUT INCOME its about giving people a reason to come out to hunt for something that you can hit AT ANY TIME OF THE DAY and whit people coming out to kill the npc`s that meens more people out

and also it would make races like maru and coll more playable since our player base is killing them off slowly

and this is solely for pasy
1the people tha whent to mcdonalds and said "you made me fat" won there court case
2 politics are a part of any war game and if your in a fed you are stuck whit it
3 i did mention the buildrates and as i put dow its not increasing people out to hit just how quickly you can be ready for a fight and burn cash
4 READ A POST CAREFULLY BEFOR MAKING IGNORENT COMENTS

D DraconianParadise

16/11/2011 · 04:30 AM #26

Nothing wrong with Incomes

U UberPansy

16/11/2011 · 04:22 AM #25

The moral is, don`t help those who won`t help themselves.
Also the recent buildrate boosts are a massive accomplishment, probably the best thing to happen to this game IMO.

D Deamon666

16/11/2011 · 04:16 AM #24

your an ignorent jeck off buzz off

U UberPansy

16/11/2011 · 04:09 AM #23

If you don`t have the motivation to sever your server political ties, or plunder down, why should the admins lift a finger?

IM FAT, MCDONALDS WHY YOU DONE THIS

D Deamon666

16/11/2011 · 03:01 AM #22

how about plugging in a bot to those npc`s or stealing and transplanting uc code into gc
and also for abuse of npc then have it so 1 person can`t hit 1 npc more then x number of times befor it would refuse to attack the npc
maibe use viral as a base for them unlock ONLY FOR THE NPC the G and D class ships and guard ships in general so the fleets can be from ALL areas of the game but still be always the same sets for each npc so it can be a little workable and less just blindly bash into them whit a spam hoping to break

THIS WOULD MOST ASSUREDLY NEED STEPHEN but would be SOOO worth it it would give this game a much needed activity kick

i know admins did alot they got br`s boosted and im thankfull but it dus not give people something to hunt just a meens to spend money faster and build more even fleets quicker BUT WHATS THE POINT? once you get out there are maibe 3-5 people total out to hit unless you have a few hours to burn to pop a shot at those around 50-150mill
now if you consider feds and there "political" restraints you end up cutting your targets in half . . .ish

so unless your fedless at 1 planet and rich and jobless you got very few targets out at any 1 time for unexploreble empires and races thats a very depressing prospect i remeber i hated my c3 by the time i got rid of it cus i spent more time trying to scrape borders then doing anything else

thats my rant enjoi hate flame its up to you

O Omegian

15/11/2011 · 01:46 PM #21

For those about NPCs every 20 mins ... uhm that isn`t going to be possible without an admin having to constantly play it, because a) Its not coded like UC where you can have them build at random at random times. Anytime there has been an NPC its been operated by someone of a moderator/admin/ or special guide level. Otherwise I would be for it to a degree, just not like the consistent borders for some big empires heh.

D DellzG

15/11/2011 · 12:38 PM #20

Yeah, the NPC thing is a good idea. It would definitely mitigate how boring the games get with such a small player base. It might actually make the game worth playing again.

B black

15/11/2011 · 09:31 AM #19

I don`t know about having that many NPC`s coming out of DP that often . . . somewhat takes the risk out of playing coll/maru if there is always someone out at set times to hit for borders.

A androxia

15/11/2011 · 07:51 AM #18

yeah thats a great idea deamon, only make it like once every 2 hours, maybe causing a couple empires to go for it at the same time and creating a battle

D Deamon666

15/11/2011 · 07:08 AM #17

this game need npc`s that only stay in dp for 20 mins tops spewing random fleets and borders i think that it should be spread out across the ranks something like
4 hovering at 100-300k
5 hovering from 400k-2mill
3 hovering in the 5-30 mill
it would make it so there is always something to go out and hit especially for unexploreble empires

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