PROS:
Collective race can be a thorn in your side on the battle field with a potential economy strong enough to set of UW`s. Like virals, it has 2 ships with chemical attack (if paid). Also it has one of the fastest build range 9 ships in the game. There are also 3 unpaid 100% capture ships!
Wow! Pretty impressive? Galleon is a feared ship.. it`s like a grandaddy broadsword. My personal favorite is brigantine because the assumption is I am leading galleons then you run into this chemical/missle power house. Ouch. Then after that.. gotta love just capturing all kinds of interesting ships. Well, the times the capture glitch doesn`t pop up and screw you.
So.. 1 - 3 just really decent ships and with enough patience and jacked up food prices, a very strong economy.
CONS.
Alas, I arrive and the reason I am making this thread. The most "con-filled" race of all.
When a viral captures a 11k Ularge, what happens? They look at it longingly then quickly kill the pop or plunder it. Useless it is (wish it wasn`t). Well that`s useless to collective as well. Viral captures 2 juicy C3`s from an Aminer and they are stoked. Just infect that SOB and milk that puppy all day long. Well that, too, is useless to collectives. 1 planet at a time collective must. Maru can use U class and clusters no problem btw. Hmm... so it must be the ships and ability to navigate the ranks (stacked of course!) effectively that collective race is hindered in such ways economically.
Nope! With only 3 unpaid ships having the almighty `No Retal` ability, only 1 with more than range 7 (range 8 makes having a truly effective 10 stack without capturing... well... impossible. You will have to use the easy to kill queens and kings with is just a gamble.
Maybe I suck at battling, I don`t know how to stack, I don`t know how to spam properly, say what you will flame on. Psh. This race was created with good intentions, but it is a bit too complicated with "stephen programming."
Collective Race Hmm...
Started by FISTFULLOFDOLLARS
· 18/05/2011 · 11:33 PM
· 60 replies
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To support Jammers post, if it pleases the court I would also like to point out
Exhibit A
H. Galleon
(doesn`t have no retal)
Exhibit B
R. Sloop
(doesn`t have no retal, or a heart for that matter)
I rest my feet.
Exhibit A
H. Galleon
(doesn`t have no retal)
Exhibit B
R. Sloop
(doesn`t have no retal, or a heart for that matter)
I rest my feet.
J
Jammer
Hopeless says ships without no retal are worthless....
The K class ships don`t have it, and they aren`t worthless.
Yeah, it`s nice to have, but not having it doesn`t make a ship worthless.
The K class ships don`t have it, and they aren`t worthless.
Yeah, it`s nice to have, but not having it doesn`t make a ship worthless.
>.>
Collectives Pwn.
Anyone who says different is a n00b.
You don`t like your R. Snow? That is a personal problem my friend.
It makes me nervous when you guys discuss my race...
Collectives Pwn.
Anyone who says different is a n00b.
You don`t like your R. Snow? That is a personal problem my friend.
It makes me nervous when you guys discuss my race...
C
Crack
Swords can kill strafez.. Hopeless logic is out..
N
NiHiLiM
boy, you are really... hopeless...
H
Hopeless
everyone says, terran has the most ballanced ships to use,,,,,well I am here to say they do NOT...name 1 ship a non paid terran has that has no retal and can out range queen or king..in fact the only ships terran has that have no retal are herc, nirv, tyr, and P class...all which lose to strafez..oh yeah the battleship which is worthless also..no retal is so important that ships without it are useless
Collective is the best race around(on par with guardian probably but for different usage). IF you know how to set it up and you are patient enough.
C
Crack
I always get un-alcoholic asking me for something which they will like..
Lol, I like your salesmanship Crack!
C
Crack
U can try digging on ultra with other race.. :p
people always are game for testing but no1 goes to ultra which gets 100 turns every 3hrs or so for unpaid..
people always are game for testing but no1 goes to ultra which gets 100 turns every 3hrs or so for unpaid..
,but, but oh I did *smack
I don`t know what kind of results there are for other races, but I do seem to get pretty good returns on commons, but assim bases are uncommon during uncommon time for me :/
M
mazuku
I had some epic digging results as collective as well
J
Jammer
Collective has to be up there with terran, if that`s so. I didn`t spend too much time as terran, but I was collective for quite a while.
Terran is actually the best race for digging
J
Jammer
I was a collective a long time ago, I loved it.
I personally think collective is the best race for digging, just putting that out there.
I personally think collective is the best race for digging, just putting that out there.
There are not enough collective around for anyone to care really.
experienced ~ old
I think collectives are an impressive race, certainly their recent tweaks seemed designed to thwart Terrans in particular.
I haven`t played the race but I`m experienced enough not to care lol
I haven`t played the race but I`m experienced enough not to care lol
Fist, the reason people always brig/gal spam with the occasional sloop/gal is because those are the only decent ships to use! Like I said, 10 stacking is sometimes possible.. lets see I`m well over 100 days old but I`ve had a really fancy Lucas type stack only once. If I could pull off nice fancy stacks daily AND up high PR`s I would have less to complain about. I
Today I tried that and because I had 3 chlorite in my stack already, I didn`t capture over 3500! It`s a glitch. It`s a glitch that sucks. So if the glitch isn`t going to get fixed then yes either more ships or make the ships we have even better.
Give schooner some no retal
Or further defensive shields on Snow
I would be so hppy to have our own version of Tour simply by adding no retal to pinnance.
Ton`s of small changes can be made to make it up to collective race.
Today I tried that and because I had 3 chlorite in my stack already, I didn`t capture over 3500! It`s a glitch. It`s a glitch that sucks. So if the glitch isn`t going to get fixed then yes either more ships or make the ships we have even better.
Give schooner some no retal
Or further defensive shields on Snow
I would be so hppy to have our own version of Tour simply by adding no retal to pinnance.
Ton`s of small changes can be made to make it up to collective race.
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