Nerf Lyth

C.gemini all the way

the best aminer ship is , hands down and obviously, C.Aries.

Lyth can be a usefull tool against guards but come one its just one frikkin ship what`s all the fuss about? I wake up and pray that a lyth spam hits my stack so I can pawn it. Only a lazy guard needs fear one ship cause too many guards spam and don`t stack. Lyth can get flanked for extreme damage or if it runs into fezz its game over. The ship is fine as it is, br, pr, weapon and shield mods are fine as well. When stacking as a miner its great in a seven stack or more as well.

Bottom line any empire that is that worried about one ship needs to realize the have more then one ship in their build list and learn to not depend on any one thing to be successful here.

PP: true say, I never said that we should stop with miner because guards are OP too. But that`s a topic for another day perhaps ;)

Freelancer: thanks for typing in normal text once in a while.

So you agree that lyth is overpowered and the best solution is simply to find a challenge to suit the OPness? Touché. Also, back to your earlier point: I dare you to find any ship in the miner ship list that is actually better than lyth, in a spam. Get back to me, when you find one ;)

Try having a Lictor spam run into Hun-Lis, it`s not pretty.

I hope PP applies to be a Guide someday...

put lyth back at 1 BR and problem solved

If i were a miner against a guardian (1v1) and i did not have the lyth, i would not stand a chance against the guard.. I mean.. Start building lictors, arags or even sapphires (these are the only ships with decent BR besides lyth). But none of them got missile damage. Miners need a decent missile ship with at least 45k/turn BR.

I`m going to be No. 11 HELL YEAH.

I use to deal with Lyth spams all the time on RT.... until we started shutting them down. It didn`t take long before people learned that if they Lyth spam regularly they won`t last long.

Lets close this grant.. U are a miner on fast.. Im on slow and ultra.. Lets wait until aminer appeal to more people on rt and others find it sick to get lyth spammed..

Last count around 10 or so aminer on highest 50 based on pr in rt..

Maybe i count wrongly.. Who cares..

Zzz..

Yes very good quote MD and it`s very true.

Even if everyone in the world made great efforts to always do the right thing and be good people, I am afraid that most of us would fail and almost none of us would ever be angels; things would be far from boring still.

The excuse that things would be boring if we were all decent people sickens me. Yeah let`s all just be not-smarts and treat everyone unfairly etc etc just for entertainment? [removed] people that think this way, I am so sick of it. They are why good people give up doing good things and treating other people kindly.

You know better as well

Edited by Raistilin on 2011-04-11

Hey now, don`t turn it around on me.

I was the one to bring up the changes. :P

No one else seems to want to do anything about it, people all think it`s fair. So I have to concede the possibility that maybe I`m wrong. Either that or it`s just not worth spoon feeding people the solution if they don`t even want their problems solved [removed]. I recall someone once saying: All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.

You know better, some topics are not discussed, mate.

Edited by Raistilin on 2011-04-11

Then we would all be angels..

No devils.. Sigh.. Kinda boring..

Yeah sure take advantage of something that you think is unfair all day long because "it works." Such a philosophy is one of man kinds largest problems.

Doing something just because "it works" is the philosophy of a monkey or caveman. Humans, if willing are able to rise above such and do things because they truly believe in them or believe them to be the right thing to do.

If everyone stopped doing things that they themselves believed to be unfair this world would be a much, much better place.

MD so if you`re the only one on that server that is lyth spamming and you think it is unfair, then maybe you should just stop lyth spamming.

cry me a river.

Md.. I agree with u but the challenge will be better fighting with a full ten stacks..

Freelancer.. What md wants is for aminer not to be so easy.. Most wealthy and easily spam lyths to wib most times..

Md.. Not enough gc~ers find aminers appealing.. They find guards op thus the increase of guards especially in rt.. I cant even remember without checking, when the last boom happened for rt.

Freelancer.. The colour is almost the same.. Almost.. Unless im colourblind..

Zzz..