Time To Re-Re-Verse

a.nalogy, not behindogy!! Gosh I hate this filter! :P

Renegade, your WoW behindogy falls short because in WoW, you can have multiple characters on the same server and even have multiple characters logged in at the same time if you`re tech savvy like that and not get banned (or maybe you would, i don`t play WoW). In GC, that isn`t the case. Just saying. :P

AM I`m completely with you on that. Especially for those older empires..... and Gradu saying staff would have to do a lot... isn`t really an argument and restarting isn`t an argument either. I don`t wanna start anything on tweaking Guards but this would have Virals a bit as well these days...

Now that I`m thinking about it, its the same as me choosing guard, then all the build rates getting lowered. I can`t just pick up my c2 and head over to another race where I like the ships more. Granted it is a little different but not by much.

Agrees with am.. But gi reasoning is great..

I pity the uw`ers though..

No refunds, too much hastle. Just restart.

AM I agree with your argument, I really do, but the amount of work that would involve for the staff is prohibitive.

Changing the ship lists for every single Viral empire would take days I`m sure, and if it was allowed this time, it would open the door for Virals to demand a ship list change every single time a ship got tweaked. At that point I`m sure at least a few empires would use that opportunity to change their lists simply to get the ships they want, as opposed to the ones they could capture at the time, or decided they wanted to change up their lists to confuse their enemies. That`s two reasons for changing, and I`m sure there would be plenty of other less than honest reasons for demanding a change that would pop up.

With that kind of head ache occurring every time a ship was changed, it wouldn`t be long before ship tweaking became extinct, and attempts at balancing the game would fly out the window. Were the staff paid, it would be a different argument, but they aren`t, their time is effectively donated to the game, and as much as they care for the game, that kind of hassle will quickly burn them out.

Now were large changes made, such as the removal of the D and G class ships, or a serious change in several of the commonly used cap ships of the game, then a ship list restart might be understandable, but not for the minor tweaks that have come about, unless something changed while school work forced me to VM the last few weeks.

Just restart your empire if you want different ships, it wouldn`t be the first time someone has done it.

I am with you on this AM, i wish my UW ship can be changed due to the changes on the Lakko. but i am stuck with it, no worries.

fenrir and epidotes ? REALLY ?

Though to be fair i am pondering whether to have Garudas =-P

Not an unreasonable request though AM, could be the same as the Caps Lab project, invest x money, spend x turns, etc

Poor little Virals with their poor little ship lists, oh woe is them!

Wait... wait a second sorry i found my brain never mind, i don`t feel bad for them. Restart like anyone else who doesn`t like their ship list.

Edited by Raistilin on 2011-04-06

epidote build rate was changed!

ah yes and chlor, major changes there.

Edited by ShatterdDreams on 2011-04-06

what changes are you talking about that have affected viral since D and G were made unreversable?

i am nearly 100% sure no changes aside from minor upkeep tweaks if that have happened to any ship viral can even touch since all virals were forced to reselect ships

Edited by ShatterdDreams on 2011-04-06

im with AM on this one.

Can`t change ships and expect virals to live with it.

That being said, can`t think of any big changes lately that would affect things. Lyth upkeep was twecked breifly, so I guess there was a small window of time where someone could have chosen lyth purely because of it`s reduced upkeep and then got screwed over when the upkeep was returned to its original value.

i thought virals were pyth spammers anyways

I think AM is saying that the update to the a minor race is to much for him to keep up with as a viral

Your stuck with them deal with it.
Many older empires have had ships changed on them over the years, they get stuck with the ships of their race even if they dont like it. Get use to it, it might be unfair you think to you, but sometimes it unfair to all of us & you shouldnt get special treatment for it.