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Time To Re-Re-Verse

Started by AmericanMinistry · 06/04/2011 · 02:46 AM · 87 replies · 4 reads
A AmericanMinistryOP
OP 06/04/2011 · 02:46 AM
With all of the changes to the ships, can we please re-reverse the virals soon. We need to be able to re-pick because of the changes. The strategy is different when u make changes to any reversable ships. Thanks -Jon

The last one only happened due to ships being changed to unverseable D class and G class. So don`t count on it.

Edited by BadWolf on 2011-04-06
S SerpentofOld
11/04/2011 · 02:54 PM
Lol@BadWolf Well that explains it. I went on to explain my point =P I am aware the immensely overpowered (at one time) Virals have been nerfed considerably over the years.
BadWolf
11/04/2011 · 02:51 PM
What is all this talk about poor Virals getting the shaft from updates? This doesn`t make any sense to me at all.

That`s the only part of your post i read Serpent =P
S SerpentofOld
11/04/2011 · 02:50 PM
Wolfy I believe you`ve been hitting the sauce. No where in that rant did I ever say Viral don`t get directly nerfed... I`m saying at the end of the day they are still BY FAR the best equip race (when used intelligently), nerfing or not.
BadWolf
11/04/2011 · 02:45 PM
@SerpentofOld,

Borr, Chiron range reduction from 9 to 8. (and 7 on chiron)

Removal of G Class, and D class. from all virals and no longer being reverseable.

Huge upkeep hikes on V class.

upkeep rebalanced of maru ships which included pyth getting a huge upkeep compared to what it had.

I could easily go on but i think my point has been Made.

Edited by BadWolf on 2011-04-11
F FistOfNoRemorse
11/04/2011 · 02:31 PM
iv never seen so many ways of typing "deal with it or restart" in the english language thx thread
S Serpentofold
11/04/2011 · 02:26 PM
What is all this talk about poor Virals getting the shaft from updates? This doesn`t make any sense to me at all. One of the best things about this game is that the ships gradually change over time, like in real life. Viral are going to complain?? You, who get the luxury of being the ONLY race that can build ships of their choosing, are going to complain about something not being fair? LOL!

OK, I will run a scenario by you. You RE Chlor and it is bad@ss. You also RE 8 other ships that you consider to be the best of your choosing. Chlor is nerfed a year later. OH MY GAWD! How is your rich Viral empire going to manage with only EIGHT of the best ships around?? You should just quit because your empire is ruined and there is no way of saving it.

>.>

OR, the same situation happens and you AREN`T an 8-year-old boy. Then, you simply enjoy the fact that, unlike any other race, ALL but 1 of your ships are straight out awesome. No wasted space ships in your stack, except that formerly kick@ss and now only really strong Chlor, I guess.

Cry about it, restart, or deal with it. Serpent out.
F FistOfNoRemorse
11/04/2011 · 02:09 PM
make a 1 time use project that un reverse engineers all your ships but you gotta be fleetless to use it
F Freelancer
11/04/2011 · 01:31 PM
Im more than half asleep, and really i cant make heads or tails of what your saying or even what im saying.

I wasnt really around for the D/G.class changes, but im sure all viral got the change to update their shiplist then, if not they missed out on their chance. And its true i dont care how old your viral empire is, its not like viral players are the only ones with old old accounts that under gone major ship changes over the years. And what do you want staff to do, fulfill this request for RE-viral ships everytime there is a ship update? Really its all an decision by the admin of what he wants to do, and there is no way i would give a RE-viral update each time we updated the ships, to much work & to annoying. Maybe is stephen was paying people to be an Admin it would make sense to do so much work, but people got real lifes with real jobs & real problems. Admin is time consuming & we been lucky to have a few good ones in GC.

Really it would be nice to close this thread, PM an Admin yourself & ask about the whole thing, im sure an BW gots his reasons.
A AmericanMinistry
11/04/2011 · 01:11 PM
Lancer your argument is: Because when changes happen to a ship, we aren`t allowed to switch races, so why should virals be able to re-reverse? One of many problems the logic is that when they nerf one ship for a race they balanced it by changing another ship for that race for the better. So the race is still balanced. A viral is stuck because the y aren`t being looked at holistically like any other race, except for the fact that they can restart... So The problem is veteran virals just need the opportunity to adjust their selections, because of the admins changes to the ships they already own or to the ships they didn`t pick before the changes but would pick afterwards. And yes a paid veteran account deserves to not be told the only way to fix their problem is to restart. Theres to much work put in by the players on their accounts to be told to restart because an admin decides to change a ships stats...
D Deamon666
11/04/2011 · 12:48 PM
sure paid race would since it lines stephes pokets and if it didn`t this site would probly

A) get sold for better or worse

B) simply shut down no huff no fuss just PUFF gone
F Freelancer
11/04/2011 · 12:39 PM
@ DraconianParadise - Stop looking at accordex. If see catches you staring, and she gives you those evil eyes, you better start running.

@ Thief - im a paid account & im not a viral... does that mean i can repick my ships too?
@ Theif - Old viral account with old pick vs new viral with new pick is the same thing as saying A.miner vs guard. Its just the ship selection & preference. Ships change for all the races, they dont just change for viral, if you dont like the changes, the simple answer has always been deal with it or restart... idk why you viral think your so speical... and being a paid race doesnt make you more special than the other races.
T Thief
11/04/2011 · 12:07 PM
"We aren`t complaining about competing with other races"
T Thief
11/04/2011 · 12:05 PM
No HB, and alot of other people.... Here is the deal, Do not punish veteran viral players saying to get the ships you want just restart. This is bad for the game, and when people restart they are likely to just quit after years of playing and then these changes come along. When a person switches to a new viral now they get to choose the ships they want according to the way the ships are. Unfortunately the ships were changed on us and we were not given the chance to switch. We are just being told to deal with it or restart. We are complaining about competing with other races, I think it is fairly balanced. We are complaining that the new virals get to pick the ships they want while the veteran account virals, which is a paid race, has to sit back and be told they won`t do anything for them. The 500 or 700 or whatever day then get a new re-reverse isn`t a bad idea at all, but what would be better is is every 2 years we balance the ships at a set time and at that time only are virals given a short window to adjust to the changes. (sorry I was gone for so many days)
H HoneyBucket{HH}
09/04/2011 · 05:18 AM
I think some virals are just having a difficult time accepting the fact that they are no longer then only dominant force on all servers.
D DrKsTGuArDiAn
09/04/2011 · 05:14 AM
Last I checked this horse is dead so let`s put down the sticks and give it a rest.

* fires up the grill, horse burgers it is boys
O Omegian
09/04/2011 · 04:30 AM
It is kind of funny people argue about viral for RT as I am sure collective is just as deadly or deadlier there as they are on TB servers.

To come back to the topic, should we allow another free rev engineer reset? No, we gave everyone playing that chance. Since then I will reiterate what I said earlier, the ships that are modified over time some will be worse off, others will stay the same or be improved to compensate. You will just have to live with it and play it as a challenge. You aren`t always supposed to have ships for every race to fight against effectively, every race must have a weakness ... per se

@ Freelance - collectives are worse if you really want to argue about whose an UBER race. Virals are easy to defeat and they are not that UBER even back then. If people can`t beat virals that`s a whole another set of issues.
F FistOfNoRemorse
09/04/2011 · 03:42 AM
Rules of the Internet.

11. All your carefully picked arguments can be ignored.
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