Collective suggestion

An Industry improvement would be fascinating.

I once tried doing industry on a captured cluster. The -90% modifier had it producing fewer goods than the colony`s infrastructure upkeep was. If the modifier were improved, perhaps it`d be possible to attempt using them for the good of the game.

I think the last thing we need is more food production.

woops forgot about the other servers.

ear614:

do I really have to explain this to you?

Colls have cheaper ships...the race is supposed to be lower-income by design. Even then, there are exceptions...normal/ultra both have big coll empires, that are both on the richlist. Go look.

Geez, you don`t see me complaining about guardians because you don`t see a lot of them on the richlist.

granted, coll is less desireable to play, but that`s just because all non explorable races are worse off, since there are less players in the game.

Also grantsweep how will this make Coll overpowered. Right now there are 3 colls that are on the list of most planets and their are none on the rich list. Also in total there are 6 coll (not including the one in newb protection) in the rankings. Pretty much coll is a dead race and to help it become popular it needs a few updates.

btw credit Deil with that idea (at least the tax part of it)

Nah, assimilated clusters should stay the same with regards to agriculture. If an improvement must be made then make either tax (increase the mod to -20) or industry (increase the mod to 0) an option for these assimilated ones. Then collectives could choose to do the alternate on the side or even choose to specialize there!

... i like your idea ear614, but i would rather have a similare that i make from scratch than a big assimilated cluster that produces half or less food than normal. maybe a little smaller negatives.

Don`t forget about the planet modiefer probably make it

-50%----Assimilated C.1
-60%----Assimilated C.2
-70%----Assimilated C.3

that could probalby even them out or so. Just bouncing ideas

cause collectives would have 2 different types of clusters, making it harder to keep the colony count down. you have the assimilated cluster on one side, and the similare cluster on the other. collectives cant build clusters to assimilate, so they have to capture clusters from other players, then assimilate them, and if they have enough, cluster the clusters. meanwhile, the only cluster they can initiate form scratch themselves is their traditional similare cluster

Maru also have less agriculture modifier.

Maru have -50% Coll have +50%

almost identical upkeeps. Why should coll be allowed to build C3s easily, like marus all of a sudden, but get much higher boost to agriculture capabilities?

this would OP the race

that would help a lot.