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mineral bot

Started by DrKsTGuArDiAn · 17/01/2011 · 08:49 AM · 48 replies · 1 read
D DrKsTGuArDiAnOP
Was wondering what everyones thoughts are on having a mineral bot on rt like we had for food, this way empires with empty stores can fill up and rich empires can work on maxing out if they wanted to. I can`t really think of any hard core downsides to this except for some empires trying to buy out everything but some are already doing this now so what`s the difference?

It would be nice to have random bot drops periodically in the market, I would volunteer my time to help in this regard.

Thx for listening
DG
M Mazuku
id bet in a month or less the market would be empty on all servers if that happened. Instead of RT just having the major drought.
I Infernal
let me just say, opening up the market to be all server inclusive is a horrible and unbalancing idea. you could very easily make an empire on slow much richer than he could really be
B boudicca
That would be a horrible idea to lower the cap on minerals, because many empires around here "ghost empires" are already sitting on max minerals =)
T ThEpAkIsTaNiEmPirE
Yeh, we need miners, i mean it only takes 1 good miner to fill up the whole server.... I would do it, but i am a maru for sometime now ... dont feel like restarting.
F Freelancer
Rutile 1,000 81,703,074
What do you call this guys? bought myself half that.
F FlashysDomain
DG...what is the reasoning for the mineral market/ I would proffer it`s to build ships, make money producing and selling, and to play the market (buy low, sell high).

Right now, there`s too much extra cash laying around and the wealthy players need a place to spend it. Thus they buy up everything to cache the savings account ( I admit, I am guilty of this).

You could produce more via the bot idea...but it would penalize the producers..more difficult to rid themselves of production to make income.

You could release the cap on pricing, then watch as the market wents nuts until price stabilization occurred..and the little guy got priced out of the market.

Maybe restrict income of the wealthy? Errr...that`ll go over like a rock falling from a cliff.

Or...maybe open the mineral market to all the GC divisions of play. Thus, someone on Slow could sell to an open market and RT could benefit from that.

I would say the best way is to create more benefit/incentive to producers. Perhaps giving better ships...something like that (who knows?).

Just some points to consider...maybe....
E elemental
interesting thoughts, but maybe we should stick to the thread topic.
V VALJA
b4 anyone`s reading me wrongly... i said...

1 STC daily... ONE... not everytime of login... or in a simple word, only 1 STC for ever 24 hrs...

but can be considered it`s 2 in a day when one at 7.30pm and the 2nd one after 8pm... but to entitle for the 3rd STC, it has to be the next day after 8pm...
V VALJA
FlashysDomain... acceptable idea... but it`s player unfriendly...

some of us do have great suggestions and ideas... just make it friendlier to players regardless new or old...

most of us think for -ve effects to ask the players to play and use their money... but why can`t make it more to +ve effects instead?

for example... what harm of having 1 STC per day whenever the players login rather than taking something away frm it? sooner or later, they will use the STCs for whatever reason they want to... can`t keep more than 256 STCs rite? this won`t be done as the voting last time, every player that login between 8pm-8am next day will be entitled with 1 STC... who cares they will just login to get STCs, at least these players will login daily...

oh yeah... the harm of having STCs only to players that sit in high PR and worried that anyone can jump off to high PR in a few mins... lol...

anyway... to entice something, give carrot... not laxative... :P

seriously... i see more punishment rather than enticement suggestions in this game in a way to attract players... it`s mindboggling... lol...

come on... you want to attracts the gals, you will show the best side of yourself... show off your rides... flowers and chocs and whatever the gals fancy... so what`s the different with games eh?

:)
F FlashysDomain
The market is the market.

Perhaps a better way tha have a mineral bot is to have inactive players cede 10% per 24 hour period of inactivty. If one is out of DP for 24 hours without attacking or being attacked, 10% of their mineral cache is ceded back to the marketplace.

high PR is expensive, and havng to replace fleets is costly at high PR. Lose 10% or spend the cash, thus having less $$ available to buy up the market ....
C Crack
The person who pay the most attention to market will be able to buy the minerals.. As long as he have the credit to purchase it..

In slow and fast server.. Where im a newly aminer.. The minerals seems to stabilize..
E elemental
crack- i used to be a mineral miner. it didnt help the server all that much. as opvs said, only the rich empires bought my minerals
C Crack
Its a war game..
:)
I just lost 80% of my credit due to enslaving an old empire.. Zzz.. I still wonder how i can laugh it off.. Lol..
V VALJA
Crack... i don`t care to complain anymore... just stating my own personal view... i don`t mind spending on games that i love coz i don`t consider as a customer but as a shareholder... my benefit is the enjoyment of playing such game and i wish to see the game goes further... SFGC isn`t the case anymore to me nowadays..

some of us loyal players can support until a certain limit... IF Stephen isn`t doing anything, it`s Stephen`s loss anyway... i`m emphasizing Stephen (unless he`s no longer the owner), coz this is his game, he started it and he`s doing nothing nowadays to attract new players or even trying to maintain old players...

why i bothered so much about this thread? coz i believe a regulated BM will help this game a little bit... this game can`t survive on its own, there should be a regulator like UN once awhile... a BM can`t be there 24/7 but it should be around once in a few days...

the rich empires can buy stuff, the less-than-rich empires can still buy minerals when the needs arise...

sometime i do wonder who actually wanted to kill this game in the first place when it`s not attracting new players at all by making it harder to play without minerals?

it`s easier to point fingers to empires that hoard the minerals and for what? to make them feel guilty for being rich?

come on, get real... this is a game... we want more players... not to the exclusive few who thinks they`re the greatest war strategists... the more, the merrier.. not just a snobbish elitist club... SFGC can be the best in its genre but don`t hold it down just for the sake "it`s a war game"...

:)
D DrKsTGuArDiAnOP
@Crack. Im not sure I could play another race other than guard, I`ve only ever played guard.

@Blade. My most honorable adversary, very nice of you to offer. For an ss your ok lol
C Crack
If 5 of u who complained become alpha miner.. That will definately change alot..
O OpvsDei
well if not a mineral bot then pls get the black market going, this is ridiculous, how many young empires cant play because there is no food and no mins on the market!!!! you guys want the game to die off or what? i know for a fact that most mins get bought up buy the rich guys leaving nothing to the new empires...
B Blade{}Liger
in my own observation and experience there is no shortage of supply of minerals in RT. just hoarded by rich and not so rich players. well can`t deny that its a tactic in the game as well. i fight most of the time and build a lot but i can`t burn out all the minerals i have. i usually share my minerals to my fedmates only but now ill be extending it to others as well. if anyone of you guys need some feel free to PM me i can spare some for you. even though you are not in my fed.. its not fun to fight against empires who doesnt have minerals to build ships... :)
V VALJA
this is one of the reasons i`m almost totally stop playing SFGC... some of you keep on talking the core of the game is about fighting and battle... apart than that, the other beauties of this game are being ignored...

so try to ignore this when there`s no minerals at all to fight... stop talking about one or two or few big miners that can fill the market IF they want to... the FACT is, this game is too small to just depend on the supply and demand theory...

and stop talking about restarting or reset the whole thing... some of us play or build something to last as long as it could... and we don`t mind to pay for it....

in other games, the developers will provide ALTERNATIVES to some of the options for players to get things done... this isn`t the case for SFGC... such a sad case...

it`s sadden me to see where this game is going compared to other games... too bad Stephen can`t see the gem he`s having... unless he`s thinking it`s a germ instead... :P
H HoneyBucket{HH}
Yeah I agree that`s part of the problem, but the fix is not to raise food.... other alternatives must be considered. Mineral miners make plenty of money and don`t have to worry about exploring much, so I don`t think that that is the main problem. There are tons of minerals on the server, they are just all hoarded by rich players..
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