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Stagnant Empires

Started by Islander · 03/12/2010 · 09:07 AM · 48 replies · 2 reads
I IslanderOP Admin
So I was considering things lately what with the food market and bot crab - thinking on how in the past this was never necessary, the market would balance itself out.

I`ve noticed that VERY few people restart these days, and people are just sitting on empires, playing the same race forever. Almost no one I know has a new empire, and even looking at myself I`m over 400 days old. For the first 6 years of my playing gc I never had an empire over 150-200 days. It was very rare for me to get even that high, now I look and find myself at 400 =/

Somethings definitely changed around - with the exception of a UW no one restarts these days for the sake of playing another race :(

Thoughts?
B Blade{}Liger
@Spudville
don`t worry man i feel you.. Empire age 796 day(s) im getting old as terran too.. ;)
F Freelancer
Disband all federations and disable the ablity to join one or make one. Then everyone get a name change and watch the ranks go crazy lol. Sad thing is people will ask who is who. I would lie just to make it funnier in the ranks lol, others would tell the truth and back to the old allies and the being stagnant Universe we got here.
I Ishamael
I feel like you were trying to stress a point somehow Spuds... but... didn`t see any.
S Spudsville
1478 day(s)
I guess most of you are right, why do some of us non fighting non restarting, mineral hoarding, ore gabbing fools stay in this game. All we are good for is supplying borders to people outside of our Feds that we don`t really care much for. My little 161k bit of land is useless because I don`t fight the one UW that comes up on RT once every 4 months.
I guess that the only reason that I still play this game that I have been to lazy to learn, is for the friendships in the game, and kinship to our little Fed that I have also helped become stagnant because I refuse to leave and try something new.
And the name changes, how boring is it to keep the same name like `Spudsville` forever, there is no fun in that, players never have to guess who you were before and have to look at your lame battle records to guess who you might be and adjust their stacks for the easy borders.

Dang! Some of us are just killing the game by refusing change. My bad, I apologize.
S Seifer
same old faces, same old races, same old spams....
D DrKsTGuArDiAn
I thought stagnant meant smelly... starts pointing the finger Oo
G GradualIncline
See, I don`t know the first thing about getting a bot, or how I would use it, or anything like that, I just make up for it by being on a lot. So many people have been accuse of, and admit to, using bots in the past, and my question is....why? Kind of defeats the purpose in feeling pride for your empire, doesn`t it? Kind of like any form of cheating. What`s the point in playing a game if you`re going to cheat your way through it?
D DrunkenMasters
The thing that changed is that badwolf started restarting the botting empires.
B Biohazard
I restart about every 100-150 day`s.
Yes i lose 50 K C2`s 60K larges,... So it`s a freaking game ^_^.

Perhaps there should be a more damaging effect if a UW goes BOOOM ^_^
R Raistilin
lol, how about those empires that vm to hide from counters or try to keep clusters? sounds like they`re being just as stagnant as the rest.
V VALJA
i agreed with EvilLoof... :P
G GradualIncline
If someone tried one I would crush them into dust. If I`m going to lose my arties anyway, I`d use them on the UWer, and they wouldn`t be able to do anything to rebuild, and they sure as anything would never be able to use stcs on themselves, cause the shield I`d put on them would last longer than every arti they`ve got.
G GradualIncline
You let me keep my arties and I`ll UW all day long to get a massive ship list, then go Guard and crush anyone who attempts the same thing. I`d terran UW without using terran ships :P That`s actually the only reason I haven`t restarted. The land, not that great, about 80k, the income, only 24 million a turn, the infra, maxed, but 80 levels sitting uselessly in agri (hey I was a newb in the beginning) none of these I`m worried about. I might not be able to get as much land right away if I restarted, but redoing my infra research would make up for lost income.

My arties however I`ve spent years digging up, hording celebration give-outs, and creating a vast storehouse of doom, to the point that I`ve been thinking of trying to max out every arti as my next major goal. The only way I would ever restart were if I did a UW, and almost have a couple times out of boredom, but never had the time. I would never give everything up just for a change of pace, it`s just not my style.

Also, I`m over 2600 days old, and I`m not planning on leaving any time soon, the only times I`ve gone in VM in the last three years were because of school, or vacation, never boredom. (In RT, I`m in VM right now in Ultra :P)

You want to make things interesting? Start throwing your own events, such as Juicy Rewards, or reg giveaways for tournaments, schedule fed wars that are organized on a point system, and have the two fed leaders give out rewards at the end. Use your brain, you get bored, do something unexpected and interesting. You`re just lucky I`m not staff, I`d probably ruin my RL just to mess with people by doing events all over the place. :P



Don`t Quote Me
"If at first you don`t succeed, skydiving is not for you"
H HoneyBucket{HH}
would be so hard to get everyone to support a hard reset UW, I could imagine feds breaking up over it, members leaving to attack their own fed mate`s UW..... really doubt you could get enough support even if it was an option....but you never know, interesting idea.
E EvilLoof
as for uw`s being detrimental to the game lol o.0 it`s the only thing thats capable of getting people to fight at all on gc these days
E EvilLoof
Let rt uw holders have two options(had to be picked at start of uw) regular uw or hard reset :D
yah yah i know not gonna happen, but dam that would be fun /and make for some weird new uw teams i bet heh, hell we`d even get valja to fight heh
D DrKsTGuArDiAn
I would sum it up like this

In my oppinion

Just satin

Um....yeah

GuArD OwNz
R Requiem
Simple solution: allow empires to bring over 1 colony of their chioce to their new empire after a succesful UW. Allow empires to keep all artifacts they have after a succesful UW. With those done, i assure you you`ll see a spike in the number of UWs and server activity as a whole. That`s one main reason why UC is so much more dynamic than GC, cause upon restarting they get to keep their research lvls, ministers, artifacts. Makes UWs and the like alot more appealing to old time vets with huge gordoed planets (in the case of GC)
D Deathroe
I know this isn`t cutting edge thinking, but here goes:

I am on five servers, a different race on four servers (I do this so I can gain experience the pros and cons of each race)

I am a Commercial Viral on RT, and it seems to take forever to reach a level of research that really is profitable (I also need to score more planets) But I am close, I have almost 200 Commercial, so making money is easier. I doubt that this empire could ever UW and recently I have considered re-starting but I want to max out research as a personal goal.

It seams to me, having played this game for several years, that it takes a long time develop an empire that can be Effective (define effective as you wish) and once its there it would be a great waste of time, energy and commitment to re-start; hence, the reason that empires are older .................
I Islander
The reason many do not UW these days is because it is pointless, and in many aspects is actually detrimental to the game these days. MK just doesn`t seem to understand that :P

Nah - I and many other previous race changers have been around forever. It keeps the game more fun. The people I tend to see leave the game more are the ones who get bored of the 1500 day empire that hasn`t changed in years =/
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